Any one tried this?

Submitted: Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 07:48
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http://punctureproof.com.au/client.html
Could be our answer to a lot of problems on road & off & affordable to boot.
Cheers,

Bob.
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Reply By: GoneTroppo Member (FNQ) - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:01

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:01
I once applied for a job with a crowd selling this type of product.
I got the job but did not go ahead as the whole thing sounded a bit iffy.

This was back in the early 80's.

Guess the question as with fuel saving devices is "If it's as good as the claim how come the big manufacturers don't use it."

Having said that they seem to have a very prestigious list of users.
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Follow Up By: Robert HL (SEQ)(aka zuksctr) - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:42

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:42
Chris, the big companies are using the product.
Mines,Tucking,Army, the list goes on.If you have a look at my other thread above it shows a lot of who are using it, coppers & so on.
I wll try it soon in the next couple weeks

Cheers,

Bob.
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Reply By: Rockape - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:03

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:03
Bob,
I used a similar product in my front tractor tyres a few years ago, I think it was called tyre seal and ARB sold it.

Used to get a punture in the front tyres quite often, after I used the product the puntures stopped, I also have it in the tubes of my material handling trolly because it has poor quality tubes and they kept going down all the time, again tyres don't go down now.
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Reply By: Serendipity of Mandurah (WA) - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:05

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:05
Hi Bob

I watched the 'Race to Dakar' with the BMW motorbikes and they where all running a liquid gel in their tyres for punctures.

I would suspect that at high speeds the gel might start to set with the heat. I noticed on their web site most of the vehicles recommended are slow moving or large haulage. If you had that gel in your tyres for a long time and it started to set out of balance you would have to chuck the tyre.

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Follow Up By: Robert HL (SEQ)(aka zuksctr) - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:36

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:36
David,
The gel never sets hard in the tyre to what i can gather,otherwise it would not be able to keep on sealing holes.
It says it more than likely out last the life of you tyres.
I was just on the phone to the head office in Sydney,he said he was getting a lot of enquiries from 4wd drivers/owners about airing down & you just air down like normal & air up again.
He told me of an instance of a mine 4wd got a stake & when he got it he had 15psi in it & when he got back to the site parked it & next morning it still had 15psi.
The stuff actually keeps your tyres cooler thus your tyres last longer as no air is escaping like it does without the product also keeps the tyre softer & if you were to run your tyres past the wear idicato it still seal the hole.
I will be looking into getting it as i can see the benifits of longer lasting tyres.

Cheers,
Bob.
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Reply By: austastar - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:14

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:14
Very successful with green slime in pushbike tyres, you get to see a little green slime on the out side of the tyre and you know it has sealed the leak.
It is does stick up inside the valves, and gets into the pump if you are not careful.
Sure beats having to fix a flat on the way to work though.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:25

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:25
austastar

i wonder how this stuff (puncture proof) goes in a 4by tyre when inflating/deflating as far as your (some times expensive) tyre gauge goes?

will it get into the mechanics of the gauge and interfere with the accuracy of it?

just a thought.
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Follow Up By: austastar - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:54

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:54
Good point Mark, care would have to be taken to make sure the valve was blowing clean air before putting a gauge on it.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:02

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:02
Mark,
get onto the agent, he is in your area (Lismore) and can answer any questions.

I spoke to him and will post what he said below in a new post.
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Follow Up By: DesF - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:07

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:07
Hi I can vouch for wrecking you digital tyre gauge, the lads used mine to check the tractor tyre pressure at our club and even tho the valve was at the top , some must have got into the gauge as when I went to use it next time , no go , it appears to be blocked , $ 20.00 down the drain, I now use an old dial gauge to do my pushy and M/bike tyres.
Cheers Des.
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Reply By: Sea-Dog - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:27

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:27
I am an ex copper and years ago I took the licence off a young lady for drink driving... a few weeks later her name was in the paper as a pillion passenger who died when the rear tyre of the motorbike she was on blew out... apparently it had suffered a puncture in the past and the owner used the liquid puncture leak stuff... it kept the tyre inflated until the point where the damaged tyre self destructed.

Makes me wonder if she would still be alive if A she had not been drink driving and kept her licence or B if the bike owner brought the tyre to a shop to have the repair done. (I am sure if the shop saw internal damage to the tyre they would not have made the repair)
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:44

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:44
Mate,
the tyre seal I used is not the same as the product you use to temp fix a puncture. I would have a guess the guy used the temp inflate and seal product.

The product you are talking about states that the tyre must be repaired as soon as possible aftre you have used it.

Have a good one
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Reply By: Rockape - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:38

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:38
Spoke to the agent, his reply to my questions were.

1. What happens when you deflate tyre.
Answer- nothing as the product only sticks to rubber,through centrifical force the product goes to the outside of the tyre and away from the valve, if some gets in the valve by the tyre being left on it's side just put an air line on the valve and inflate slightly.

2. Does it cause deterioration of the rim, tube or tyre.
Answer- no in fact it makes it easier to remove the tyre and keeps the rubber in better condition.

3. Does it cause out of balance problems.
Answer- your tyres must be balanced before you install the product or it could make the out of balance problem worse, when owners vehicles have developed a shimmy problem it has been found there is a suspension problem causing it.

4. What cost for a 4wd.
Answer- around $10 per litre. He told me my 285/75/16 tyres require 700mil per tyre

5. What about high speed use.
Answer- 2 products available high and low speed applications.

6. Sealing capabilities.
Answer- His words not mine. An u/g mining company drove a truck over a 25mm spike then continued to run the tyre for the rest of it's life without problems. Product tested by driving a vehicle over spikes at high speed.

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Follow Up By: Moose - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 13:35

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 13:35
Interesting answer to 4. That works out at $7 per tyre but their own site says $25 to $40 per large 4WD tyre.

I note that the stuff is only designed for protecting the tread area - they say sidewalls not really protected. However one of the videos shows the sidewall being shot and supposedly being sealed.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:08

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:08
Yep Moose it don't add up, could be a minium amount you have to purchase
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:39

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 17:39
I had to re-read the info as well.

Item 4 is the technician installed cost.

Note: All prices will be significantly reduced if self installed or purchased in bulk

The sidewalls are ok for holes not tears from what I can make out.
Most side wall damage is from tears or rips on 4WD's.
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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 19:46

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 19:46
When the M7 in Sydney was being built, my operator on my bobcat was getting an average of 10 punctures a week at $25 a puncture. First I used to plug them but then I bought 20 litres of that stuff when I put new tyres on it. No more punctures. Sold the bobcat last week and still have 10 litres in the shed. Problem is it is not rated over 50k an hour
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