Split Rims and Tyres

Submitted: Friday, Aug 22, 2003 at 21:18
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Was wondering if someone could help me out here. I have a Hilux 2002 Extra Cab and am going to the Kimberley in 2004 with a traytop camper. I have decided to use the split rims that the car came with as it is difficult to get tyres for the 15x7 inch rims from the SR5 that have the right load rating.

Has anybody had experience with either the Dunlop road Gripper F tyres that Hiluxes often come with. Or the Dunlop Super Grippers. I have been recommended the Super Grippers but can get the Road Grippers much cheaper from my Toyota dealer and don't know if they will perform as well.

Many thanks in advance.
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Reply By: Jimbo (WA) - Friday, Aug 22, 2003 at 21:45

Friday, Aug 22, 2003 at 21:45
Grant,

You don't actually have to match the load rating on the SR5 tyre/rim combo - just comply with the tyre placard for the SR5 - and the two things are different!

The load rating on the SR5 OE tyre is 112; but the tyre placard alludes to you having to meet the axle rating of 1570 kg (for the rear, which is the largest). 1570 kg per axle = 785kg per tyre. The closest load rating is 100 which = 800 kg per tyre (more than required).

This load rating allows you to fit BFG or Coopers as an example.

I have just fitted BFG All-Terrain T/A KO in 30 x 9.5 x R15LT with a load rating of 104.Cheers, Jim

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Reply By: troy - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 10:15

Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 10:15
had some sp road gripper's on my '95 hilux. Had no trouble with them off road. Handled any situation - mud and rocky stuff. Didn't venture onto the sand but have heard that with the right tyre pressure (as always) you have no troubles.
I found that the tyre wear was fast - probably due to my tyre preesure and my wifes driving style. LOL
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 11:52

Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 11:52
Grant,

Have tried both the Dunlops mentioned and prefer Goodyear Wrangler TG, for a variety of reasons. Better in mud, more tread depth, and walls are a little straighter to stop sidewall damage. We haven't tried them in Hilux size, but have running them on Landcruisers for some years, with few dramas.

Am running 15" tyres on a hilux, and had trouble getting replacements at dealer in Mt Isa, he had to order in. No trouble with 205x16's. the Road Grippers can be pretty dear at times up here, suppose would be cheaper from dealers that do a lot of conversions.

Hooroo...

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Reply By: Williewags- Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 13:14

Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 13:14
I am of the old school and have split rims(7.50x16) on my old 4by and have used Dunlop Roadgrippers( also known as Telecom Tyres) extensively and they are OK in an 8ply rating. You should get 40,000 to 50,000 k wear out of them. Had no trouble in sand with tyre pressures down to 15psi. They are a good allrounder tyre.Just make sure you buy good quality tubes.
Cheers,
Willie
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Reply By: Meggs - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 14:03

Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 14:03
I asked a similar question some time ago and I was told the Road Gripper F were a good tyre not to be confused with the S series made in Australia, this also confirmed what the tyre dealer told me. I got a new set as a lot of people want wide tyre and flash rims and the old tyres and rims are sold off cheap. When I got them my Hilux had done 55,000klms and I believe the tyres would have gone to 60,000klms.
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Reply By: Steve - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 20:25

Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 20:25
I run Dunlop Road Grippers on my 80 series Wagon ( The Jap ones ONLY) and IMHO they are the only tyre for the dirt and rough stuff... Super Grippers are a pain in the arse on the black top... roar like a tiger !!! and for that simple reason I never used them... In sand i drop them to 18psi and have never been in trouble...Fraser Island. Simpson Desert etc... as has been said in another response, tubes are an important factor in the deal... get good ones ( I use Michelin ones ONLY and carry my own spares !!) and have never had a puncture with them ....these tyres are as hard as nails and have a strong sidewall that is most important !!! ( I use 8 ply Tyres )..have fun !!
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Follow Up By: GrantM - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 22:00

Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 22:00
Thanks for the advice. Indeed thanks to all the previous replies as well. It would appear that the Japanese Road Grippers may be the way to go. The ones they come with are only 6 ply should this be a problem?
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Reply By: Slammin - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 23:10

Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 23:10
G'day Grant I've bben watching this thread to see which way it goes b4 spending my 2c, BTW goodonya williewags thought you'd support the splits at some stage.
Had the 6 ply roadrippers which wore v.fast in sand. v.good all rounder. 2nd set didn't go the supergrippers but went 8ply overlanders which were a good tyre for life 70k out of 6.
I have just got the AT Coopers,10 ply in a 225/75/16 which have @ 20 ml more width and still fit the splits and have been v.happ so far 5k, hard to spot any wear or chips. Bit easier on the donk in soft sand, confidant in mud, but that was on the flat. One bent nail, no punctures. The above size is avail. in any number of brands (didn't check the dunlops but most others brands and were in stock here in Alice at the dealers at all times).
I drive way too fast for some and expect a lot from my tyres. Always go splits (until the solid tyre is made!) and maybe checkout the 225's if you want a bit more in the sand.
Happy spending, BTW get the quote in writing, my dealer honoured his mistake but it did remind me to keep your ass covered.
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Reply By: GrantM - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 23:42

Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 23:42
Thanks everyone. Lots of food for thought. One question though, As I mentioned, the Road Gripper F's that come standard on Hilux's are only a 6ply. Is there an 8 ply version of the same tyre in a 205R16 or do you have to go to the Australian Road Gripper S to get that?
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Follow Up By: ToyMotor - Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 20:58

Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 20:58
The Road Gripper F's that came on my 2001 troopy were 8 ply, 7.50 x 16. Lasted me 40kkm (4) but a bit slippy on wet blacktop.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Steve - Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 21:00

Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 21:00
I have used both 6 and 8 ply Road Grippers and as they are such a good unit (IMHO) ! I have found little difference.. neither of them has given me any strife !!! the 6 ply are cheaper of course !!!
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Follow Up By: Shaun - Friday, Aug 29, 2003 at 21:44

Friday, Aug 29, 2003 at 21:44
I have just replaced the original road grippers on my 99 D/C hilux with 85,000km on them - probably could have gone to 90,000 but got a good deal on some new ones. They handled a Cape trip and plenty of dirt and beach work with no problems - not a single puncture. I'll be staying with them. Have run super grippers on work 78 series and found them tough but noisy and quick to wear. Good luck.
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Reply By: Slammin - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2003 at 00:33

Wednesday, Aug 27, 2003 at 00:33
Bin down the 6-8-10 ply the more the better particularly at the end of life. $ = reason. Sad to say.
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