Anderson Plugs

Submitted: Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:37
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I just picked up a pair of 50 amp anderson plugs so I can wire up the camper, but what I have noticed, while trying to decide where to fit the vehicle end, is that although the plugs join together easily they don't seem to lock into each other. Is this normal and how do others stop them self unplugging?
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Reply By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:39

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:39
Brian. They will lock into each other. I would assume they are not put together correctly if they do not. Check to see if you have the lugs around the right way. :-) Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:40

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:40
Hi Brian,

Would I be safe in assuming you haven't put the pins into the shells yet? In effect you are asembling a pair of empty shells.

If so, yep, they don't lock at all like that. They require the whole of both plugs to be assembled before they will lock and lock they will!

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:45

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:45
Well Done :-). I guess I missed that step, Brian I hope Geof is not right LOL. :-). Tony rolling on floor.
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Reply By: toyocrusa - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:44

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:44
Hi. They wont lock in until the terminals are pushed "home" into the housing first. Before that you need to crimp or solder your wires (the merits of either were discussed recently on another post) into the terminals. Once that is done and the terminals inserted fully they should lock together. Regards,Bob.
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Follow Up By: toyocrusa - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:45

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:45
Struth you other guys write fast.
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Reply By: Member - Josh (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:45

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:45
Hi Brian,
We have the anderson plugs for charging while driving. They are fairly hard to push in and do not come apart. If yours simply come apart then i would say you have a problem. Check that the lugs inside are in properly. The only time I have had trouble was when I forget to plug them in and drove off. Not much plug left at the other end.

Josh
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:58

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:58
Where do you get the red T shaped handles that attach to the side of the moveable plug to make it easier to unplug, does anyone know?
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:31

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:31
T Handles atPowerstream

Cost when I bought them $4.50 each and postage $5.

Worth there weight in gold .

Pedro
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Follow Up By: RV Powerstream P/L - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 20:11

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 20:11
Peter
When you say $4.50 each and $5 posting I hope that was only a once off postiing fee regardless of the quantity otherwise that bloody crew ripped you off.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 20:36

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 20:36
6 @ $4.50 + $5 postage = $32.

After I posted link I see they are now an even$5 each

On ebay $6.50 ea No postageebay site

Pedro
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Reply By: Brian (Montrose, Vic.) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:09

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:09
Thanks for the quick replies guys, I thought that not having the wire terminations in would stop them locking in but after mucking round with them a bit and realising that the wtermination can be clipped in and out easily I still find that the dont lock together as such, guess its back to the supplier to be shown what I've done wrong....
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Reply By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:17

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:17
Hi Brian

I must also mention that you must not deform the shape of the lug when crimping it.

If you look at the lug you will see it has a very slight 'bow' but is almost straight.

When crimping the lug it is best to crimp it in the mid section of the cavity and not deform it in any way. Using a crimp tool is best.

If done correctly the plug will push together and 'snap' into place, tension held by the stainless steel springs.

If done wrong the plugs are hard to push together and hard to pull apart.

Keep the contacts clean to prevent dust wearing the silver coating away as the plugs are connected.

Regards

Derek from ABR
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:45

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:45
Perhaps this will help.

Note the spring position.




Regards

Derek
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Follow Up By: Kim and Damn Dog - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 15:53

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 15:53
Can I also ask a question which is vexing me. If I run a heavy duty wire to the back of the car for charging the battery on the move, what do I connect the Anderson plug to on the trailer?

The trailer has the normal rectangular plug for the lights. Do I leave that in place, and then connect the heavy duty wire directly to the battery in the trailer?

In other words there would be two connections, one for the trailer lights, and the other for the battery.

I know this a dumb question, but I can’t get a straight answer out of anyone.

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 16:18

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 16:18
Have a look the this picture.

Email me for more info.



Regards

Derek
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Follow Up By: Kim and Damn Dog - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 17:26

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 17:26
Gidday Derek

Many thanks for that. At least I have something to give to the sparky now.

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: Chev-Patrol 6.5 V8 D - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 20:23

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 20:23
Just to clarify....... YES, you do need to have 2 cables between car and trailer. The normal 7 pin (flat or round) plug for the lights etc PLUS the Anderson plug which is solely for the battery charging purposes.

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 22:01

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 22:01
Kim,
You ask:
Do I leave that (original light connection) in place, and then connect the heavy duty wire directly to the battery in the trailer" <-YES

"In other words there would be two connections, one for the trailer lights, and the other for the battery" <-YES

Look at this for a simplified charging system
Put the fuse as close as possible to the (+) battery terminals
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 22:19

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 22:19
Maîneÿ . . . posted:



NOW YOU ARE BREAKING COPY RIGHT RULES !!!!!!!!!!!


PLEASE........

IF YOU INTEND TO DEFACE A DIAGRAM TRY YOUR BEST TO MAKE YOUR OWN. DON'T TAKE ONE OF THE ABR-SIDEWINDER DIAGRAMS AND MAKE A TOTAL TOTAL MESS OF IT.

YOU ALREADY HAD YOUR CHANCE ON THIS DIAGRAM AND HAD TO APLOGISE OF YOUR STUPIDITY ! (WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO POST THE THREAD !)

YOU SHOULD REALLY THINK BEFORE POSTING......

I AM GETTING QUITE TIRED OF YOUR INEXPERIANCE AND POOR KNOWLEDGE ON SOLAR AND DC POWER.

PLEASE STOP !

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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 23:22

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 23:22
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 23:25

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 23:25
Brian

Actually the thread in question is a good read.

Look-Here

Regards

Derek from ABR
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Saturday, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:57

Saturday, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:57
Derek,
it's just a "simplified" version
obviously using thicker cable :-)

Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Saturday, Apr 25, 2009 at 09:15

Saturday, Apr 25, 2009 at 09:15
Derek,
my 0RIGINAL diagram does NOT have your "copy right" sign on it
Funny isn't it - wonder why that is ?

Maybe I did N0T use "your" diagram, but one copied from elsewhere ??
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Reply By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:45

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:45
Hi Brian,

Have a look at thread 67184 on 25-03-09 when i asked almost exactly the same question and got some very helpful replies.

Cheers,

John
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Reply By: Brian (Montrose, Vic.) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 23:07

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 23:07
Derek and John, thank you for those bits of info, like many others it seems I was putting them together wrongnow they lock into each other beautifully.
Cheers
Brian T
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 08:00

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 08:00
The only time I've had problems with Anderson Connectors is if the contact hasn't gone in correctly and the spring can't push the contact in the right position. This has only happened on the smaller Red/Black 30 amp connectors where the is less space around the wire sleeve.

I've seen people put the contact in upside-down - then you definitely will have no locking force - and the wire will pull out easily.
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Follow Up By: RV Powerstream P/L - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 20:21

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 20:21
Mike
There is a special crimp tool made for the Power poles that crimps the whole circumference and will offset any connecting problem from disfiguring.
Its called a Tri Crimp and made to suit 15 30 and 45A contacts and has a back block recepticle for holding the contacts to allow two hands free to place the wire and crimp.
Ian
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Reply By: obee1212 - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 13:51

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 13:51
I had a problem like that when I was too enthusiastic with the soldering iron and some solder got onto to lug. I didnt see it at first and it took a bit of swearing and cursing before I realized my error.

Owen
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