Spare tyres for crossing WA.
Submitted: Friday, May 01, 2009 at 14:45
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I was talking to a bloke who did a trip in northern WA across to NT who apprently went through 10 tyres on the trip, it sounded like an awful lot but he isn't 1 to exagerate.
In planning for my trip, I was curious to know how many tyres would be a suitable/ sensible amount?
the trip leg in question would be:
Perth -
Steep Point -
Warburton - Uluru - Lake Eyre - Adeladie. The rest of the trip has alot of tyre shops in between so its not of major concern. There a 3-4 cars going (hopefully we'll run same size tyres 32-33s) and i was planning to take 2 on rims per car and any more as just the carcass.
Any suggested on comment on brands would be welcome provided it doesn't turn into a brand war. was thinking cooper or BFG AT/MTs
cheers in advance
Reply By: Michael A (VIC) - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:04
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:04
I have travelled that route a few times and used both Coopers and BFG mud terrains.
I always have 2 spares and a plug kit. Only ever had one
puncture to speak off. It comes down to how you drive and tyre pressure (under 40), I run 34-36 usually.
Enjoy the trip.
Michael A
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:04
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:04
brendOn,
2 Good spares should be enough per vehicle.
Just make sue the spares are not worn out and are the same tread pattern and size as what is on the vehicle.
Cooper or BFG would be good for the trip. It is more about how the vehicle is driven that will determine how the tyres will last.
Wayne
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:06
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:06
Eeek! That's an aweful lot of tyres!
My first question for him would be, What pressure were you running them at?
My second question, How fast was he going?
Me personally, I reckon your plan of two tyres on rims is sufficient without the spare case.
Brands, in my opinion whatever floats your boat.
Though the Coopers do tend to cop a fair bit of flack around these parts and a fair percentage of it appears to be justified.
I currently have Cooper ST's on my Troopy and they do seem to be going
well. Though I haven't put them under much pressure yet.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 16:18
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 16:18
Geoff,
A bit OT, but that;s a great photo of
the rock in the rockpool.
Willie.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 17:19
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 17:19
Thanks Willie,
That was one of my first efforts when I got my digital SLR.
It was taken on
the rock ledge beside
Newcastle ocean baths.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Saturday, May 02, 2009 at 00:12
Saturday, May 02, 2009 at 00:12
Nice
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:07
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:07
The luck of the draw maybe. We travelled over 15,000 kms last year, almost all on dirt roads including
Gibb River Road, Tanami, and
Great Central Road. BFG All Terrains, and not a single tyre problem.
On another trip some years ago, we had a tyre blow when we got back on the highway to head for
home. We then spoke to a friend on
Geraldton who had three tyres blow in a short space of time on on station roads with his work vehicle (Govt).
Take a kit for doing tyre plug repairs.
Run appropriate tyre pressures for the roads.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G NSW - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 18:31
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 18:31
Love your new
pic MH...a busy time for you no doubt.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 22:56
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 22:56
Thanks Fred - it is particularly busy for us because we do it more intensively, and pen each ewe and her lambs together for a day or two to make sure all is
well. The you get like today - we think one ewe had triplets, another had her lamb beheaded by a fox, and a maiden ewe had rejected her lamb. Confusion all round as to who belonged with who. Just back from the shed now after giving a few of them a bit extra from a bottle. I think the totally rejected one will end up with my bottle babies here at the house.
Mh
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Reply By: Member - Kevin J (Sunshine Coa - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:31
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:31
Took 3/4 months across the top including GRR, Old Mornington, Boorooloola, Hell's
Gate and Cobold
Gorge. Did two tyres on the Off Road camper.
Pajero had new tyres at start and I ran them throughout at 36
The tyres which blew were at least 4 years old - Had originally been on the Pajero - and had less than half tread at start. One had been plug repaired at some time which didn't help.
Certainly stones do not care what brand you are using but you can help by the way you drive.
I would think that 2 spares per vehicle would suffice particularly if others in the group were on the same size and stud pattern.
Kevin J
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Reply By: Moose - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:39
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:39
If he stuffed 10 tyres he was doing something horribly wrong.
1. Take new tyres. The more worn the more punctures in my experience.
2. Brand doesn't matter.
3. Make sure they are of LT construction - tougher.
4. Drive sensibly
5. Alter tyre pressures as required.
Do the above and you will not need to tow a trailer full of spare tyres.
Cheers from the Moose
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Follow Up By: a convict - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:58
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:58
RE: "Take new tyres. The more worn the more punctures in my experience. "
The mind boggles sometimes, ..in boondock land, about 70 mile east of Roebourne WA, I came up beside a pulled over Holden Ute which had three flats, and it had two more flats in the back. All 're-treads'.
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Follow Up By: Haza - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 20:26
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 20:26
All of the above.
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:50
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:50
Brendon,
there are some sensible comments above. The newer the tyre the better. You shouldn't have a lot of issues on the roads you're going providing you take it easy and drive to the conditions. Adjust pressures accordingly, slow down to cater for the corrugations and if your in a vehicle track, don't continually swerve to what appears to be a better thrack. Those mounds in the centre of the tracks usually have the rocks that do the damage. If you need to change across, do it slowly. Carry a plug kit.
Not even I destroyed that many on last years trip across several deserts towing a trailer. He must have been doing something wrong. Slow and steady my friend.
Cheers Mick
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Reply By: Tony - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:51
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 15:51
We spoke the driver of a back up for a bike tour, he had done in 6 tyres between Alice and Wilunna. They were waiting for a replacement brand to Coopers, and needed 10 tyres.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, May 02, 2009 at 23:18
Saturday, May 02, 2009 at 23:18
That sounds like a group I came across at
Wiluna in 2007! They weren't impressed with their Coopers and they were about to head up the Canning.
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Follow Up By: Tony - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 13:16
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 13:16
That would have been them Phil
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 16:48
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 16:48
Hi Brendon, when are you planning on doing the 'trip' ?
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Follow Up By: brend0n - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 15:51
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 15:51
Ealry 2011. April/May
I haven't got a 4wd yet, so thats whys it still a awhile of yet.
So this will give me time to set up and learn the 4x4 and do nessary training.
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Reply By: mechpete - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 18:21
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 18:21
when our group travelled the CSR in 05 when met a group of vehicles at durba springs . the one in question was a Hi Lux ,the elderly driver had almost unroadworhty tyres onit . I aksed about the tyres he said don,t be silly I wouldn,t bring good tyres out into this country .
takes all kinds
mechpete
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Reply By: Member - Charlou - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 21:36
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 21:36
Two spares should be fine that all we have ever used but take repair kit and start off with good rubber all round-----if you have a choice give the Coopers a miss. Have had bad experience with stone cuts in the tyre tred on two ATR tyres that were better than 60% rubber. Tyre pressure is important and take special care driving thru burnt country. Have a good trip!!
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Friday, May 01, 2009 at 23:04
Friday, May 01, 2009 at 23:04
If any one does ten or six tyres its the drivers fault. Changing brands ain't goin' to change a thing. I'd change drivers.
They need to slow down, and reduce load. Not only that, a good driver seems to be able to mostly avoid the rocks that perforate.
A tyre temp and press monitoring system costs SFA compared to six tyres.
Punctures are like crashes. The better the driver the fewer there are.
Bob
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Reply By: splits - Saturday, May 02, 2009 at 01:03
Saturday, May 02, 2009 at 01:03
brend0n
For what it is worth, I went on an extended Outback trip through
Birdsville and
Oodnadatta two months ago with four other cars. There were four different brands of tyres between us and nobody had any
puncture or other tyre problems.
I noticed the most popular tyre by far with the local people was the
Dunlop Road Gripper in 7.50x16 size.
That bloke who went through 10 tyres must have had them inflated
rock hard and was going like a bat out of hell.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 16:26
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 16:26
Hi again Brendon, I will be taking my Troopy up the coast from
Perth to
Port Hedland and then across to
Brisbane starting in about a weeks time. Thought I might have been going to pass you at some time. I run splits :-))
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