Petrol at Kunarawitji

Submitted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 17:05
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I'm trying to weigh up ordering a drum of ULP for delivery at Well 23 v's buying fuel at Kunariwitji.

Couple of questions - Is ULP (or Opel) available at Kunawaritji without pre-ordering, and at what cost?

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Reply By: mechpete - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 17:10

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 17:10
why does it matter if its opel fuel ,its stil going to be suitable for the vehicle .
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 17:18

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 17:18
Pete,

Maybe I worded that badly - I'm quite happy with either ULP or Opel. I can have a drum at Well 23 for $2.50 per litre, or at Kunawaritji for$$??, but to be certain, must I order it as some have suggested, or just rock up?

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 17:42

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 17:42
John,

Fuel at Kunawarritji ( Well 33) does not have to be pre ordered. Last year fuel, Diesel or Opal, at Well 33 was $3.80 p/l.

This might have been because there was no fuel deliveries at Well 23 last year but in previous years fuel at Well 33 has been dearer than Well 23.

This year fuel should be available to be delivered to Well 23, as far as I know fuel will be $2.50 p/l, $500 for the drum.

From previous years I don't think that you could go through to Well 23 with out getting fuel at Well 33.
From a previous post you said that you were heading North to South. Is that still the plan?


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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:22

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:22
Thanks Wayne,

Yes, the plan is still north to south, Troopy and a 100 series, then leave the Canning at the Talawana Track and head west to Rudall River, cross country to Woodie Woodie, Marble Bar...... May do a side trip down the Canning as far as the Calvert Ranges and return.

With the side trip we'll need fuel at Kunawarritji, plus a drum at well 23. Without it, I can get by with fuel from either K or a drum. (I'll be packing a few jerry cans. It would certainly be very tight without these for a hungry Troopy to reach well 23) . My preferred option is to aim for a drum at well 23, with the fallback position of taking on a little at K if Troopy is unexpectedly thirsty, and ideally have enough left at well 23 to be able to return to K if the unthinkable happens and the drum isn't there. Of course I'll need 200 litres of empty space at Well 23, so it's quite a juggle!

All of this relies on being able to obtain fuel without notice at Kunawarritji. Hence my question.

The Capricorn Roadhouse will supply a drum at $2.50 per litre this year, which is much less than I expect to pay at K.

Thanks for your response. Maybe see you out there?

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Follow Up By: mechpete - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:34

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:34
in 2005 when we travelled the CSR from north to south ,we just rocked up ,they had plenty of fuel ,we did a splash an dash to get to well 23 ,paid $2. 25 p/lt from what I have read recently well 33 has put in larger tanks . our fuel drop at well 23 was 600 lts
when we filled everything to the brim there was about 40 lts left the important thing was we were full .
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:41

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:41
John,

Having enough fuel for an remote trip is always a a balance between enough fuel, too much weight and where to carry the fuel.

When you have a convey you have to plan fuel stops on the vehicle with the shortest range.

I worked out that we should meet on the CSR after Well 23, I will be on UHF 16 and also scanning all channels.

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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:51

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:51
Hi John

I ordered my fuel for delivery to Well 23 this week and they advised as follows:

Cost per 200 litre drum is $500.00 for diesel and unleaded fuel and $520.00 for premium unleaded 98 octane fuel. Drums are clearly marked with your surname.

You can only buy it in 200 litre drum lots.

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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:56

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 19:56
We found the best option was to share a drum @ well 23 (100L each) & top up at 33. This minimised the weight that needed to be carried & avoided taking on extra fuel for the sake of fitting a full 200L in. Sorry can't help with current prices.
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Reply By: Time - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 20:36

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 20:36
Give the Store a ring, 08 9176 9040. In July last year diesel and petrol were $3.20/l and they had plenty of it.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:25

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:25
"Give the store a ring"??

Thats if someone will either...

A) Answer the Phone

or

B) Returning calls when details are left on the answering machine.



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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:37

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:37
It was no problems calling (on the telephone) them in 2005 Rosco answered the phone, and he answered every question I gave him. They had plenty of diesel at the time.

The only problem was as stated below was they had no fuel when we got there.. :-(

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:51

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:51
Hi Richard
Its would seem that things have changed in the last 4 years.

I have given up phoned 9 times in 4 weeks and as I said no response.

If we get there and want to top up and they have fuel will do so if not will keep on going as our fuel load is worked out without the need to refuel atKunawarritji all being well.
Have fuel drop for Well 23 so won't need any from the community.

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:26

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:26
John, is this the info you where using?

KUNAWARRITJI ABORIGINAL COMMUNITY (Well 33)
PH: (08) 91769040
Monday to Friday 8am-12noon
2pm-5pm
Saturday 9am-12pm
Sunday & Public Holidays Closed

EFTPOS available with PIN Number (debit only)
$20.00 "Opening Fee" (per vehicle) for travellers to purchase fuel after normal trading hours.


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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:34

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:34
Yep!!

Morning and arvo answering machine with a very nice lady's voice but no other response.

No matter as I said all taken care of now.

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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 20:49

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 20:49
John

We came down the Kidson in 2005 and when we got to Kunarawitji (with a busted CT) they had ran out of Diesel, not sure about ULP, the truck had not turned up.

Road train from Port Hedland unloads and drops one trailer at Pumnu then travels to Kunarawitji.

Unloads and returns to Port Hedland, some 35000 liters of fuel.

We only had to what a day, not bad I think some at well 33 where there 2-3 days

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:33

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:33
Kunawarritji Community


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Reply By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 07:39

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 07:39
Thank you everyone for your comments.

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Reply By: Dean - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 12:35

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 12:35
I spoke to Graham at the store last week, very friendly and in the mood for a chat. Last week Opel was $3.20 pl. He told me it is always available.
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Reply By: PatrolSTL04 - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 22:37

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 22:37
Graham at Kuna is a top bloke.

July 2008 at the peak, saw diesel at $3.40....genuine unleaded not opal at $4.40. Diesel came in big quantities, but unleaded was in 44's.

Took a pic of the price as $4.40 was crazy for unleaded....but if you needed it you paid for it, as Capricorn was not delivering that year.

Graham's only recommendation was to always check with him on unleaded...but this looks as though it may have changed.

Fuel drop might be a safer option, to make sure you get through.

A 100 series 4.7 that we caught up with was sipping at 27 lt per 100....we were comfortable at 15 in a diesel.

Good Luck.

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 at 07:59

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 at 07:59
Thanks Brett,

27 litres/100 is thirsty! Our party will consist of a diesel 100 series pulling a trailer and our 75 series petrol Troopy. Both vehicles are experienced in this sort of travel, so we know roughly what to expect. The Troopy though is running with a rebuilt engine and for the first time, with a light trailer. With these changes, makes it hard to estimate petrol requirements.

Would anyone who's done this trip N to S with a petrol Troopy (4 litre 3F engine) - care to comment on fuel consumption?..... our experience says about 22-25 litres/100km crossing dunes, but that's without the trailer.

Reckon I'll stick with the rule that you never drive past a source of fuel without topping up. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

I'll give Graham a call to check on current availability of petrol.

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John

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