3.0l hilux engine in landcruiser ute.

Submitted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:53
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was thinking of putting a late model hilux engine in my 79 series ute for better fuel economy. any ideas or experiences. it will be lighter thann the 4.2 diesel too.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:59

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:59
qubert,

Sell the 79 Series and with the money you get for the vehicle, buy a new Hilux.

The money that you will save on fitting the Hilux motor into the 79 Series will run the Hilux for the next 10 years.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:30

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:30
Seems obvious really.
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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 00:29

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 00:29
if your that worried about fuel economy sell the 4by and by a hyundai. 4x4 isnt for people obsessed with lower fuel costs

anyway the cheapest way as has been mentioned for any engine swap is to put an add in the clasifieds for your vehichle while searching for one with the engine you want
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Reply By: The Top End Explorer - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 00:48

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 00:48
If a 3 lt engine goes bang in a Nissan, what hope do you think it would have in a Cruiser, seriously.

Oh by the way, there is a reason why Toyota went with the 4.5 lt V8.

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (Malanda - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 06:25

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 06:25
Steve :-) He was not putting the 3ltr Nissan Motor in the Cruiser! The hilux motor has not the same inherent problems.

But as you suggest the motor is too small for the car, so it would have to work harder and thus no fuel savings. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: The Top End Explorer - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 08:46

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 08:46
My point was a 3 lt motor is to small for a Patrol or a cruiser, it wouldn't matter who made it.

Steve.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 09:15

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 09:15
Have you had a good look at the actual size of the current model 4x4 Hilux ? Is bigger than an original 80 series is /was.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 09:46

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 09:46
Axel - Yes - Did you? :-)

79 Series Single Cab Ute Curb Weight was 2050kg
New Model Hilux Single Cab Ute Curb Weight is 1740kg.

Bigger is not necessarily Heavier. Cheers Tony

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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 10:16

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 10:16
Yes actually , park a non lifted 80 series next to a new dual cab Hilux and see which is the bigger in size , the Hilux will be longer and wider and the roof height just on even ,, curb weight is a different story , now if you stated power to weight thats another story in the Highlux,s favour as well ,,,,
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Reply By: Member - Tony & Julie (Malanda - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 06:22

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 06:22
qubert - I assume the 4.2 is non Turbo. They are a hungry motor thats for sure. But the motor is suited to what the car was made for, a work horse. They are slow to take off in first and have no power in top gear, fuel evaporates at 100k+, but they have torque to carry a load. In my experience you normally have to up the size of the motor to save a few pitiful ltrs (ie -then you can work the motor less to achieve the same result). As stated above it would be a lot cheaper to get another car.

Use the $ you would spend doing a conversion, which would cost considerable $, to upgrade to a Landcruiser with the turbo or another brand of car. My rodeo with the 3ltr Common Rail 120kw motor has power to burn and at 110k carrying a load I use 14ltrs per 100k. That is the same consumption of your current motor taking it easy. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 10:56

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 10:56
Dammmmitttt .... what a slap in the face ....

A Rodeo can go 10kph faster than my 12yo XJ cherokee 4.0l petrol for the same fuel consumption.

Might have to carry less grog in the trailer on the next camping trip and see what happens ...... LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 17:11

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 17:11
OzTroopy :-) Those 110k Zones are just there to eat fuel. Sitting on 110 down near Brisbane I was the slowest car on the road anyway.
At 100k fuel consumption drops between 11-12 per 100k (Vehicle at GVM and maybe a little more :-)). They made the new 4cyl diesel motors a bit more powerful, to get power you need fuel.

I wonder what the new V8 Cruiser is like when you load it up and drop the foot. Dammmmitttt, ILL NEVER FIND THAT OUT! Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 09:46

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 09:46
Sell it and buy a V8.
Stuff the fuel costs....You only live once :-))
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Follow Up By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 10:23

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 10:23
I like the way you think.
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Reply By: joff1 - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 14:19

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 14:19
You would really do that???

sell it! buy a pushbike
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Reply By: Pebble - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 20:46

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 20:46
You sound like my husband who is rather attached to his 79 series as well.

I drive a '04 Hilux Dualcab (Turbo diesel)
He drives a "05 79 Series (Turbo diesel)

He's got all the figures but on a recent trip to Kalgoorlie where I followed him, the Lux was marginally cheaper (like $30 or something). But the Lux is also significantly lighter, it likes to try and drift around corners as an example. So throw a 1 ton trailer behind both and then see which engine does better - the 4.2L TD would win for sure, particularly in the 5th gear! His car is also notably faster pullling up hill in a 100k zone, whereas mine slows somewhat.

I reckon if he read your original post he'd say you were crazy.

Get a Brunswicks Chev 4.5L V8 instead, power and better economy, that engine won't even feel the wieght of your car! Even though Hubby has a TD in his ute I reckon he'd go back to a V8 in a snap if he had the chance (we had one in our 80 series).
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