Headlights
Submitted: Monday, May 04, 2009 at 20:01
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Steve
not necessarily a 4x4 topic but do headlights deteriorate?
I drove the family runabout that my wife uses - a '99 Commodore wagon and was appalled at the lack of power in the headlights. My wife has commented on this for a while now but I dismised it as one of her "bees in the bonnet". I know I am more used to my own vehicle's powerful headlights with spotties thrown in for good measure but they really were hopeless on some of the dimly lit or unlit local roads. Can they even be upgraded to a better globe without extensive re-wiring?
Advice appreciated.
Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 20:29
Monday, May 04, 2009 at 20:29
Light globes do deteriorate over time.
For a relatively cheap replacement globe and a noticable visual improvement in light output, try Philips Vision Plus in the same sort of globe as you currently have. (H4's probably)
I installed them on the Jack as the old globes gave an ordinary yellowish light and noticed the difference.
The more recent headlights are the HID type, as used on the latest Commodore, Falcon and some European vehicles. But these are quite expensive, even for an "upgrade kit".
For more in depth detail have a look at
Daniel Stern Lighting
Bill.
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Reply By: obee1212 - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 20:31
Monday, May 04, 2009 at 20:31
connectors and earthing would be my first
check. A rated lamp should produce the power if it is getting votage and no resistance in the wiring.
I had this problem in a torana back when stuff was earthed to the chassis but I dont think they do that now. Not in toyotas anyway.
corrosion at the connectors might be helped by simply unplugging and replugging but have a good look at them.
owen
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Reply By: V64Runner - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 05:52
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 05:52
Little story. My 4Runner came out with factory fitted sealed beem headlights, plus Hella long range
driving lights. Over the years I noticed the sealed beam lights were getting weaker and weaker. So went into my usual 4x4 accesory
shop and asked what could be done. Advised to upgrade to the newer lamps that could take any H4 type of Globe. I`ve tried all the globes that have been mentioned from the top of this page until now. The Narva/Phillips blue tinted globes were bloody useless. Then tried 100/90W halogen globes , big improvement, until it burned out the headlight switch. So now have the new combination Xenon/Halogen globes and couldnt be happier. I`ve tried them all the PLus 50s , you name I `ve tried it - have a draw full of globes that are as good as useless - until I put the Xenon/Halogen globes in and very rarely do I have to drive with
the spot lights on anymore - unless I am in the country. Just new upgraded lamps and some decent H4 globes. The news Xenon/Halogen globes are the equivalent of a 100/90 watt Halogen, with out the current draw, and throw the same distance of light - if not better
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 07:17
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 07:17
Sealed beam?
If you can remove and replace the globe, the headlights are not sealed beam.
The only way of replacing an older sealed beam headlight was to buy the whole light assembly. They were "sealed".
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Follow Up By: Camoco - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 09:12
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 09:12
Sandman,
I presume he meant (at least as I read it) that he replaced the entire light assembly for a unit that could take H4 globes.
That is what I did to my Patrol, as there were very few outlets that were selling the sealed beams to suit. The unit cost about $30 ea and then $20 a pair for the globes. That made a significant difference for me and gave me the opportunity to use different outputs.
Whilst you can get the sealed beams with a bit of looking, they are quite low powered and dull, but they do not get problems with dust and water as the H4 units do (semi sealed).
Cheers Cam
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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 10:08
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 10:08
If you care to re-read what I wrote, I replaced the sealed beam factory fitted headlamps with upgraded lamps that could take the H4 Halogen globes. I have been in the motor industry for over 40 years and retired at the end of April two weeks ago. I do know the difference between a sealed beam and a non sealed beam headlamp
Thank you Sandman for having the nounce to read something simple, such as changing a sealed beam lamp for an upgraded lamp to take an H4 globe and fully comprehend the context of the paragraph. Good to see someone understands simple English
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Follow Up By: Bushwhacker - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 16:17
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 16:17
1)"If you care to re-read what I wrote"... I've been reading this page, and nothing about ExplorOz says the topic HAS to be 4 x 4, as you suggest by the opening statement in your thread.
2)"I have been in the motor industry for over 40 years and retired at the end of April two weeks ago. I do know the difference between a sealed beam and a non sealed beam headlamp"
If you are so knowledgeable, why are you asking opinions of people, whose wisdom is an unknown factor?
Seems some people are very sensitive... I get weary reading sensible questions and answers, that turn sour due to some peoples inability to accept constructive criticism, or a misread quote.
3) "nounce to read something simple".... incorrect spelling,,, "nous"
'Whacker
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Follow Up By: Bushwhacker - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 17:13
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 17:13
My apologies, seems I misread the name of the people posting thread and follow up, and screwed up, been having a bad day... Again, sincere apologies. 'Whacker
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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 19:06
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 19:06
Apologies accepted. My story was in no way related to 4x4s, just a passing comment on what I did to improve my lighting and yes "Nous" is right . You see I`m a beginner typistyes ane amem prong to makaing errotsrr as yew kan cee:-))
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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 19:52
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 19:52
I have a good bottle of Chivas Regal in the cupboard - care to come over to drink the bottle dry - soon solve the bad day for you.
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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 19:56
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 19:56
Oh, I meant to add, life is like the headlights on a car. The newer the lights fantastic, the older the lights lousy, same applies to the human body - the older we get the more lousy we become:-))))
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Follow Up By: Bushwhacker - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 20:06
Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 20:06
Hi V6, thanks for your most gracious acceptance of my humble apologies. That bottle of Chivas sure sounds good! Cheers, 'Whacker
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