Landcruiser LC100 Rear Tailgate.

Submitted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:29
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Am I alone in thinking the split tailgate on the Landcruiser is the most useless design ever imposed on the public?

The drop down lower half makes it impossible to put a heavy load into the back of the vehicle, and makes it hard to climb inside.

You can't reach to the back of the load space, let alone pick something up from there.

Why on earth didn't we send all of them back to Japan until they put a side opening rear door on it.

Australia design input? - like heck! More like suggested as useful for those who want to have a picnic table built in and that is all.

If they had put a removeable drawer system in as standard, then that might have reduced the inconvenience.

OK, so I have only just got one.
I know I am a long way behind the times, but I blame all you guys who have had them for 20 years and NOT DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT !!!

[Whinge over]

(LOL)

Ken
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:34

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:34
Perhaps those of us who have them are quite happy.

If you are so unhappy perhaps you should have thought about it before buying and then bought a Patrol.

Then you can sing along to the squeeky rear doors and save up for a new moto'.

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Reply By: Mikee5 (Logan QLD) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:41

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:41
Did some one change the doors over when you weren't looking, or were they like that when you bought it?

100s were introduced in 1998 and mine (2003) has barn doors.

Anyone with a 20 year old 100 series put their hands up now.
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:57

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:57
Perhaps you may not have seen many of the other LC100 on the road.

Only the base models have barn doors. The GXL and up models have the tailgate.
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Reply By: chisel - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:57

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:57
I like the tailgate. Good for putting stuff on, good for sitting on, good for standing on when you are putting stuff on the roofracks.
I don't have a problem with heavy loads - put it on the tailgate and slide it in. I find I can reach almost as far in with the tailgate down as with the bottom part up (changes where you bend) ... but yes, getting to the back of the cargo area is difficult.
I got rid of the carpet though - put a nice powdercoated insert in there (black widow).
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Reply By: Dunco (NSW) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:10

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:10
I like mine as well.

Great for working off when doing stuff on the van and great for making lunch and sitting on.

Fan bloody tastic :-)

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Reply By: Member - Broe (WA) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:40

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:40
Why don't you go and hire a Prado for a week, massive opening door that you can't use in car parks, the weight of the door makes the hinge drop so you can open or close, an dyou don't have a ready made table.

Mate, seriously, go and get a Hilux. ROTFLMAO
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 12:04

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 12:04
Oh, the big heavy Prado door, you poor thing.

Had a Prado for 7 years, never had a problem in a car park or had any difficulty opening and closing that massive and heavy object either.

Perhaps you could eat a few more weeties.

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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 12:20

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 12:20
That's what I told my mate, quite funny, he is actually jealous of my hilux, though closing the rear tailgate is so much work that I am now thinking that I should get a hand winch made up to help me close it....
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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:49

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:49
Ken,

I hated mine so much I chopped the back end off ;)

Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:17

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:17
Didn't make it go any faster...did it.

Got the egr blocked off yet?
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:23

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:23
Nope,

I'm waiting for you to do it for me hahahaha


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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:25

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:25
sorry...washing my hair that day.
however I will swap darkie for the BJ42 I have probably goes as fast and uses 1/2 the fuel.
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Follow Up By: Steve Ellis - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 20:31

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 20:31
There are two ways to make anything go faster, 1 Paint it red. 2 Put a P plate on it
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Reply By: The Top End Explorer - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:16

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:16
If you want a Hatch back buy a corolla. LOL

Steve.
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:16

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:16
With the lower half closed you can stand under the open top half and not get wet when it is raining good for doing the shopping or lunch stop in inclement weather. They don't squeak like barn doors do on any make of vehicle.
Give it to me if you don't like it..lol
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Follow Up By: tim_c - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 12:13

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 12:13
I've never had a squeaking barn door... I had a 1995 Jackaroo (with barn doors), before that a 1982 Jackaroo (with barn doors), before that a 1980 Suzuki LJ80 hardtop (with single side hinged door) ... although the latter could have squeaked and I'd have never heard it over the rattles! :)
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:50

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:50
My MQ had a drop down tailgate, loved it.

My GU has barn doors so I built a fold down shelf on the back of my storage system so that I have somewhere to put stuff when I take it out of the fridge.

My barn doors don't squeak since I had the hinges and catches tightened up and keep them all well lubricated. But I don't carry anymore on the door than Nissan put there and I am working on that.

Duncs
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Reply By: cobber - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 13:33

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 13:33
I leave my Daughters old hockey stick in the back of my Cruiser and it makes it easy to get thing from the back of the van.........got to think outside the square................lol
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Reply By: pt_nomad - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 14:31

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 14:31
Ken,
Never had drop tail gates, and did not think much of them, especially on a lifted vehicle. This is one of the reasons I purchased a standard. Purchase of a standard does not come without other compromises tho.
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Reply By: Moose - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 14:36

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 14:36
We've done nothing about it Ken because it's a bloody brilliant system. So many uses.
Used to be great to stand on when I was using the roof rack. Great kitchen table for lunch etc when travelling.
Somewhere to sit without having to get a chair out.
Rain protection.
Stops one whacking the towbar when the lower door is down.
Couldn't imagine a vehicle without that design being of any use!
Cheers from the Moose
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Reply By: Member - Henry L (SA) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 14:36

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 14:36
Hi Ken,

I,m like the others and love the tailgate setup.
I had the same on my 60s, 80s, and 2 100s.
it is great. when I stop for lunch and I'm to lazy to get the chairs out, after we make our lunch on the tailgate we then sit on it.
It's good for keeping the sun off when it's hot and the rain when it's wet.
I would buy a wagon with out one on it now.

that,s my thoughts anyhow.

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Reply By: gottabjoaken - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 15:05

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 15:05
Well,
I am a little surprised that there are so many happy with the tailgate.

I think I can see the advantages of a handy table (whoopee-doo).
I can see the advantage - no-one mentioned this - of an extended load space on occasions.

I am glad all of you can remember what rain is. My recollection was that it always came sideways, so standing under the top half wouldn't give much shelter.
Standing on the tailgate would be useful if the top half didn't get in the way, I suppose.

But I can't get over the difficulty of loading items into the rear.
And after a dusty trip, leaning over the dirty tailgate doesn't endear me to the better half.

I never had any difficulties with the single rear door on the Pajeros I had, but do accept that the split barn door is an obvious source of movement and squeaking.

Perhaps the ugly duckling will turn into a swan given enough time, but if I do my back in before it does, then I won't be thrilled.

Yes, I knew it was a disadvantage when I bought the vehicle explicitly for its towing capacity - there was no suitable alternative available at the price. I just didn't realise how awkward it would be.

A drawer system is likely to be mandated, that will allow me to load and tie down heavier items on top of the drawers without dropping the tailgate. (Dust and dirt not withstanding !)

I know most of the difficulties can be overcome, but I don't count that as a positive result...

I certainly would have been grateful to have bought one of the very few base models with barn doors had one been around at the time. Given a choice I would have probably have opted for the base model and upgraded it to suit.

However, a low mileage, auto, at the price I could pay didn't present itself often.

So, not having been particularly impressed with the virtues you have espoused, I still wonder why the customers haven't been able to influence a change.

Ken
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Reply By: joff1 - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 17:41

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 17:41
LOL you gotta be joking.. barn doors serve no good secondary purpose and side openers are useless anywhere but at Coles (my wife loves her Pajero for that reason). Drop downs on a cruiser (any model) are so much more usefull.

You got rocks in ya head Ken lol
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 18:31

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 18:31
What a useless post.................
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 19:12

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 19:12
Yeah, I know what you mean mate, but like the barn door style, they both have their good and bad.

I've got a set of drawers in the back of my Cruiser and that effectively lifts the floor height to just below the level of the bottom door when shut.

Solves that access issue and you gain all the space in the drawers.

You end up with the best of both worlds.

Good luck.
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Follow Up By: Johnny boy - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 20:17

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 20:17
Im with you Andrew,we were fishing at stockton last year and just sat on the tailgate wich I removed the carpet and replaced with Cheq plate alloy, I also have both swing outs open (ofcourse)
and I throw a little tarp over the lot the top gate supports the tarp wich also gives side protection and I ocky strap it to the swing outs and the rear roof bar instant shelta theres even enough room for my 2 fellow fishermen to watch the rods in the rain ...oh and one guy owns a patrol the other a pajero LOL!

I had to add that in sorry guys:)

Regards John.
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Reply By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 21:23

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 21:23
Love my tail gate in the LC 100 series.
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Reply By: Member - evren1 (WA) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 22:16

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 22:16
nothing wrong with it!
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Reply By: Member - Robert G (WA) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 22:33

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 22:33
I have had both styles on various vehicles and my favourite set up is definately without any doubt the GXL LC100 arrangement. The reasons have altready been listed here.
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Reply By: Brian (Montrose, Vic.) - Thursday, May 14, 2009 at 00:31

Thursday, May 14, 2009 at 00:31
On my ute, and as far as I know, just about every other ute ever made, I have a drop down tailgate. Never had a problem sliding heavy loads in or out of it. But wait, I know I might be able to lean over the side to get to things, Unless of course I have a canopy on it, never seen an issue with that kind od rear door system.
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