Prados Oil

Submitted: Friday, May 15, 2009 at 15:57
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Firstly, i have only just purchased vehicle and somehow the owners manual has gone missing. Its due for its 80,000km service, but i will be doing all the oils and filters myself and Toyota can do all the checks and other stuff.

Vehicle is a 2004 GXL Turbo Diesel 5sp.

What i want to know is what grade oil is recommended? I am a Penrite man so was thinking i would definitely go with them, but they recommend a semi synthetic oil, HPR Diesel 5. As i live in the Kimberleys i was thinking of maybe using HPR Diesel 15 instead. Is this ok? Is the semi synthetic oil fine to use. I will be doing a lap over to Tasmania very soon so was thinking maybe this time use the HPR Diesel 5 while in the cooler climates and then change when i get back.

What do you reckon?
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Reply By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 16:01

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 16:01
Also, as its full time 4wd do i need to use a Lim slip oil in the front diff or just normal hypoid 80w/90 gear oil?

Thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 21:41

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 21:41
You can use any 80/90 or 90 diff oil in your front diff - doesn't matter whether it is LS or not. The book tells you to use 80/90 but LS90 works fine, and saves you having to buy one more grade of oil. Only use LS90 in the rear.
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Reply By: Rockape - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 16:08

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 16:08
If you go to the Penrite site, you will be able to get their phone number and ring them. That way you will get it from the horses mouth.

Have a good one

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Reply By: Anthony (Vic) - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 16:17

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 16:17
I use Penrite Diesel HPR 15 in our 2003 Prado TD, change the oil at 5k and oil filter at 10k intervals. My local 4wd mechanic put me on the HPR15 for the Prado, even though I was a Penrite fan prior when I had the 3L Hilux.

It's about $124 for a 20litre drum, but I am due to get another 20l, so the price may be a bit more.

chhers Anthony
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Reply By: psproule - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 16:37

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 16:37
Did you not get the book because the previous owner is hiding an incomplete service history?
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Reply By: Member - Graeme W (NSW) - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 17:27

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 17:27
Hi Kroozer,

Toyota will sell you an owners manual if you want one. When my father got one for his Corolla, it had the service pages previous to the current km torn out.

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Follow Up By: furph - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 19:31

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 19:31
Yes, and that dealer/second hand yard attitude P's me off too.
Know quite a few people who bought S/H, but no vehicle handbook with it.
What are they ashamed of, 50000km without an oil change? (they should be)
Have never bought S/H, but when I sell a vehicle the handbook goes with it.
furph
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Follow Up By: Steve Ellis - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 20:09

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 20:09
Have to be sure the vehicle has not been stolen and or rebirthed. Ask the question again FIRMLY about the books. Sometimes they may appear as if by magic! Check with revs. Not all dealers are legit.
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Reply By: toyocrusa - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 20:23

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 20:23
Hi Kroozer. Have a look here for your transmission oil specs. I also think HPR Diesel would be the preference rather than the Diesel 15 but I would check with their Tech.line. Regards,Bob.
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/oil_selector.php
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 21:37

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 21:37
Hmmm Kroozer

You asked about this vehicle on the Forum. Lotsa advice stating it sounded too good to be true. Anyway you bought it, so it seems. No Owners Manual? Sounds suss. Hope things work out OK for you.


Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, May 15, 2009 at 21:39

Friday, May 15, 2009 at 21:39
Your 1KZ-TE is an old design. First went into Toyotas back in 1992, and it has indirect injection which is why 5,000k changes are recommended. Toyota specs are very basic. There is nothing to be gained by using expensive oils on a 1KZ-TE. Most people in warm climates would stick to the common 15W40 diesel engine oils.
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Reply By: curious - Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 14:28

Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 14:28
Kroozer,
Oil & fluids spec from Prado manual:

KT-TE specs
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Engine API CF-4 or CF or CE or CD
15W-40
with filter 7 ltrs
no filter 6.4 ltrs

Cooling: ethylene-glycol
with rear heater 10.5 ltrs
no rear heater 9.5 ltrs

Clutch SAE J1703

Manual Transmission API GL-4 or GL-5
SAE 75W-90 2.2 ltrs

Transfer Case API GL-4 or GL-5
SAE 75W-90 1.2 ltrs

Differential
hypoid gear oil API GL-5
front SAE90 1.1 ltrs
rear 2.6 ltrs

Chassis Lube:
wheel bearings lithium base chassis grease NLGI No.2
steering knuckles molybdenum-disulphide lithium base NLGI No.2
prop shaft: spiders lithium base chassis grease NLGI No.2
prop shaft: slide york & dble cardan joint molybdenum-disulphide lithium base NLGI No.2

Brake Fluid SAE J1703

Steering Automatic transmission fluid Dexron II or III

Let me know if you want the service schedule. I've changed to doing all servicing myself and transcribed the schedule from Toyota's manual into a spreadsheet to make it easier to track.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 15:09

Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 15:09
Thanks alot Curious. Yeah i started doing all servicing myself a few years back, was paying for things that werent getting done.

The service schedule you have done up sounds great, would i be able to grab a copy please mate.

Email is ; bozoblythe@yahoo.com.au

Cheers
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Follow Up By: curious - Sunday, May 17, 2009 at 09:08

Sunday, May 17, 2009 at 09:08
Kroozer, I sent it to you this morning (Sunday). Let me know if there's any problems in receiving or opening it. - Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Sunday, May 17, 2009 at 14:23

Sunday, May 17, 2009 at 14:23
Bingo, thats what i was after, thanks heaps. Excellent mate, better then the owners manual.
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