How necessary is a UHF CB radio ?
Submitted: Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:07
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Mandrake
Dumb question I know but wait there's more !! LOL
When I head off for
St George in late August I'll be heading up to
Alice Springs - bit of a looka round then up to
Tennant Creek and turn right and head towards
St George via Mt Isa etc ...
As I'm pretty much staying on the Highways do I really need a CB to monitor truck traffic - I have a couple of small hand helds range of about 2 Kms line of sight - will they be sufficient ? or should I spend the 400-500 bucks on a GME and Antenna ?
I know I'll need a vehicle mounted unit later on in travelling life but for this trip ???
What say ye men - Yay or Nay ?
Cheers
Steve
Reply By: Brian (Montrose, Vic.) - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:19
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:19
2 km will dissapear on you pretty quickly on the highway, I'd go for a proper mounted unit etc.
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Reply By: On Patrol & TONI - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:28
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:28
Mandrake
If you go out from
St George for a trip in convoy with that many possible vehicles in convoy 2km could be less than the convoy length. Just a thought mate.
Colin, see you there.
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Reply By: JimDi - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:35
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:35
Steve,
When travelling, which generally also means towing a van in my case, I use a CB usually to guide trucks around me so as not to hold them up.
Conversation is generally kept to a minimum. Whilst travelling in city areas I turn the bloody thing off because of the idiots on the airwaves.
In your case for this trip I would suggest 2klm distance would be enough.
JimDi
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Reply By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:39
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:39
Lash out and fit the real deal. :)
Have a good trip.
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Reply By: Gramps - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:46
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:46
Not unless you've got the urge to spend those $$$s.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 02:18
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 02:18
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Follow Up By: Gramps - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 08:51
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 08:51
Did you think of that all by yourself or did you get someone to help you ?
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 16:12
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 16:12
Yes there kisses. ;-)
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Follow Up By: Gramps - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 16:39
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 16:39
You've still got no idea of spelling either.
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:47
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 21:47
Are you going with anyone else ie another vehicle ? If yes then don't bother with the additional expense. If no then ....
well you'll just have to grin and bear the cost :((
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Reply By: Member - ross m (WA) - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:11
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:11
I like listening to them as I drive. A lot of the roadworks traffic
co ordinators use them, so you can hear if they are calling a silly ba$*ard or something similar.
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 09:34
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 09:34
Would you advise the 'co-ordinators' they are on a CITIZENS band system- and they should be using a COMMERCIAL system..!!
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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 12:25
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 12:25
What for?
I like it and they are only using low powered walkies.
They seem to do it a lot on Gt Northern Hwy,maybe there is a reason for it
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Follow Up By: Member - Bentaxle - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 12:33
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 12:33
Tried that in Kalgoorlie once, the forthcoming reply was a mouthful of foul language from the idiot that was the traffic coordinator
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 19:27
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 19:27
Signman - Its a you buy it you use it system - All councils I have worked onuse CB at their work sites and for Traffic Control. If you scan in QLD you will pick them up as you come towards the site. We have used them as long as I have worked on roads.
Ross knows what he is talking about. I had to tell my blokes off regularly for saying bad things about the traveling public, they were not clever enough to think the person may have scanned the conversation.
Do not know why you think that may be an issue? Unless you just hate Council/Government Workers :-) Cheers Tony
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Reply By: vk1dx - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:32
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:32
No
Don't bother. Unless you need a radio/mobile phone fix.
Have some peace and quiet or talk to the "boss".
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Reply By: BenDiD - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:38
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:38
A hand held is fine for convoy use only. Its OK to listen to truckies etc , but you wont be able to call them up, or anyone else outside your convoy, on a handheld. Get a 5W set installed.
You don't need to spend a motza, a basic Uniden unit is as good as a Icom for most people's purposes. I have never used selcall and dont know anyone who has. A basic aerial is fine as
well, you dont need a monster 9db fibreglass job - a basic 6db for around $90 will do. People will tell you these cheaper aerials don't hold up off road, but unless you're doing the gib river rd at full tilt I don't think you'll have a problem - I never have. Also in
places like
St George and Goondi you can buy replacement aerials and mics at the big servo / truckstops.
All the best
Ben
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 07:21
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 07:21
I agree 100% Ben,
I just put a UHF in my daughters Landcruiser. A Uniden UH-088 set cost me $240 a year ago, Add $25 for the aerial lead, $22 for a gutter mount and $17 for a rubber stubbie aerial. Roof mounted stubies work great in my experience and its what I use most of the time.
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Reply By: Stu & "Bob" - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:47
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:47
Get a 5w unit and aerial from ebay or trading post in your area.
Much better coverage than the small hand helds. I have a couple of small hand helds that the kids use when away from the car, and they are really just toys.
Roughtly 1.5Km range when inside a car, and if you are a bit deaf like me, you will have buckley's of hearing them.
Get a hard wired unit.
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 23:19
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 23:19
Small hand helds are fine.
Of course a proper rig is better, but for the intended purpose the HH will suffice.
Its like getting up during the night to go for a walk with the shovel. Do you put on your lace up walking boots, or do you put on your thongs?
The thongs will do.
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Reply By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 23:20
Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 23:20
I purchased a Uniden 400SX i think it is for $210 brand new on Ebay last year, fitted to a GME aerial at $120 bucks. Friend has a GME not sure which model but we both have same aerials and
mine gets better coverage then his in all aspects. Dont have to spend the bigger dollars for GME, go Uniden.
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Reply By: howie - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 01:26
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Reply By: Grungle229 - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 07:32
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 07:32
Hi Steve,
Depends on why you are thinking of having one. If it is purely for longer range communications (~15km or so) to get in contact with people because you like a chat then yes. But if it is from a safety perspective, I would suggest a Personal Locator
Beacon (PLB) like those from GME.
Sure they are only to be used in an emergency but I would prefer to have one of those in a car accident than rely on a
UHF radio. You have the little handhelds which are OK. If you can remove the antenna on them then you might want to consider an external high gain antenna that can connect to the top of the handheld to improve range.
We have just bought a PLB (MT410GAUS) as we are about to head to
the Desert.
Cheers
David
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 10:58
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 10:58
As Grungle229 said ....
The reason why you need one will dictate what you buy.
They can be handy for use in traffic - overtaking or letting others pass you etc ... and for those events a handheld is fine.
Also they are excellent in winching/recovery situations or keeping track of the kids at campsites.
Why people need them to tell each other there is a hole in the road ... when they are only a hundred yards apart anyway has me beat ... If they were looking at the road instead of the microphone ... they could probably see the hole for themselves.
UHF as a piece of safety equipment is a waste of money and false security .... your rescuers will need to be within a very close range... or maybe up to 50klm if there is a repeater nearby ... in which case there is probably mobile phone coverage anyway.
I use a $170 cheapy from Jaycar ... handheld, 3w, about 10klm range on average in flatter areas, and for better signal output and reception when required - I have an external ant connection for it for it.
Its quality ???? .... I reckon its worth about $30 ... same as all the flash ones that cost hundreds are worth about $65.
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Reply By: DIO - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 09:32
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 09:32
With due respect to your query, the best way to monitor truck traffic is to keep one eye on the rear view mirrors and the other looking straight ahead. As already stated by others, if monitoring a radio, be prepared for 'full-on' offensive and indecent language from some truckies. Don't know why they feel it is necessary to use such language. Perhaps it's something to do with their 'intellect' or poor self-esteem.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 19:35
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 19:35
DIO - Why pick on a hardworking truckie. Most of the trouble up here with radios in FNQ are from morons that have nothing better to do than dribble on the radio and try to block anyone trying to communicate. There has been an idiot around for years in the
Gordonvale area that needs shooting.
It is very useful having a radio for communicating with trucks. I will tell them I am overtaking at the next opportunity and they always help, or if they need to I can tell them to pass when safe.
Best advice is - yes good to have one and go a better set as you can get a 2nd hand one you do not need a new one. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: kiwicol - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 19:53
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Well DIO i take great offence to your statement, im a trucky and have to deal with tourists towing or not, using the mirrors to deal with heavy transport, most of the time people dont have a clue how to work with us. I will say there may be a small percentage of us who may be foul mouthed and abusive, but the majority are just the average loe blow trying to make a living on the roads, and dealing with tourists who think its their god given right to drive at 80 ks holding up traffic for
miles behind. Having a 2 way on ch 40 and working with truckys is a real asset to all involved. Also if you have a van with your channel number written on the back make it big enough to see from half a k away so the trucky can see it without having to ride up your rear end. Little things go a long way to help. Its my view it should be law if you tow a van to have a uhf fitted and know how to use it. As for hand helds they are hard to hear in a moving vehicle, and hard to understand in a receiving vehicle. So DIO what do you do for a job, and what does management do when someone in the company is holding up other workers around he or she, if it was continuous im sure they wouldn't have a job. The same applies to our roads, its how a lot of people make their living after forking out hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy a job. Col
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Follow Up By: Holden4th - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 20:44
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One of the reasons I have an UHF in my car is to communicate with truckies while travelling in rural and outback areas. In a number of situations, overtaking a road train can be a risky task and if you have the cooperation of the guy in front of you by using your UHF, then it makes life safer for both parties. I've rarely heard foul language from truckies in those areas and found other drivers to be more at fault with this. Major highways around major cities is where the UHF gives out the most abuse.
Channel 40 is only a pain in metropolitan areas where any fool with a handheld can dominate the airwaves. I leave my UHF turned off in town unless I want to
check on my travelling route
home. (This paid off on Wednesday when the M1 south to Worongary ground to a halt due to a fallen tree). I had the info before I even left work and sought a different route.
Manners and courtesy cost nothing.
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Reply By: warfer69 - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 13:38
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 13:38
Hi there
There is nothing wrong with using a lets say an Icom- 41s Handheld (5w) and a 4-6db external aerial ..Dont let people convince you that the range will be different from a (5w) internal unit ...
Just unscrew the bnc connector,screw Aeriel on and u can use anywhere.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 16:28
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 16:28
Well I have just spent two weeks travelling north on the Stuart from
Adelaide and despite a lot of roadtrains going both ways have not heard the F word yet.REALLY
All have been polite and thanked me for talking to them and allowing them plenty of time and room to pass my rather large rig.
Some have even said they would hang on a bit as they knew the road better and there was a better passing
spot a k or so ahead.
Its only the di*** heads in the city that swear all the time and I never have the UHf on in towns. .
So 1 for the truckies.
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Reply By: Member - Murray R (VIC) - Friday, May 22, 2009 at 18:52
Friday, May 22, 2009 at 18:52
Steve
If you decide on a in car radio, Prestige Communications in WA have specials on radio & antenna bundles at the moment. They are great people to deal with and the service is eccellent[ just brought 3 radios off them and arrived in Vic the next day from WA] Check out their web site under
UHF radio- antenna bundles.
regard Murray
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