Wine Casks in broome

Pretty much on the money. No packaged alcohol over 1 litre, and no beer over 400ml. Fitzroy is total alcohol ban though. The whole Kimberley is much the same, very strong liquor restrictions. If there is a funeral on or family fueds in Wyndham or Kununurra then there is an alcohol ban also. No takeaway alcohol at all. Very sad for the majority.

It's always the minority dictating to the majority.

Whether it's speed bumps in suburban streets because a few hoons tear up every now and then or a national gun buy back because of one lunatic's murderous actions.

It's all because the majority is silent and can be relied on to stay that way.

I notice at yulara instead of banning alchol sales they ban sales to Aboriginals and sighns say no buying for them.

But even that isnt perfect ive got a feeling Ernie dingo got refused service there when it is targeted at the nearby camp

Matt - Thats one of the problems - you not recognizing that it should concern you and be a problem!

Its like any law including driving rules. Rules are made to protect those who can not protect themselves and society as a whole must comply.

All alcohol products should be Clayton's - that way society has a chance, it is getting out of control this drinking problem that most of Australians have. Problem is as you say - most do not see it as their problem.

Chow Tony

Bob - I would go one step further - I am for getting rid of anything alcohol. In fact any drug not needed for medicinal purposes.

The world would be a lot better place if we could get rid of all these scourges of society.

The benefit of the grape juice does not need to be alcohol based.

Cheers to all with a cup of tea :-) Tony

Ha! ha!,

Bob,

You have taken the words right out of my mouth.
Wine drinking is a serious but enjoyable experience and I much prefer the promlem of what to do with the empty bottles than downgrade my drinking experience by consuming cask wine. (I transport the empty bottles home with me by the way folks)


Tony,

Are you truly serious mate, or was your comment meant to be "tongue in cheek"?

Bill.

Bill - :-) No Totally serious - but I know the vast majority will just laugh at the comments - no worries.

I got fired from a job once. I was a salesman up in the Far North of WA and was in a mining town pup talking to friends I had made that day. I did not drink and of course it was a mining town they all did. In the pub that night everyone made ongoing attempts to offer me a beer, everyone I turned down polity. My boss got a message that night taht I was just not right for the job.

The qualification I needed was have a drink Mate!

Cheers Tony

Tony, I appreciate where you are coming from. In Perth, and in most city nightlife spots, you just have to look at Northbridge.

Here are the lyrics of the Mental's "Mr Natural". I reckon it should be every young persons' (and some oldies') personal mantra:

Mental as Anything Mr Natural Lyrics:

I don't drink
I don't smoke
I don't sniff no coke
New age
That's me
And that's what
you should be
I am Mr Natural
You can call me Mr Natural
I don't drive no car
I live by the stars
I don't eat no meat
I am Mr Complete
I am Mr Natural
You can call me Mr Natural
I am Mr Natural
I don't wear no skin
I don't care who wins
When I know that I'm right
I don't get uptight
I am Mr Natural
You can call me Mr Natural
I am Mr Natural
You can call me Mr Natural
Mr Natural
Mr Natural
Mr Natural

Get rid the booze - that sounds good to me. The only role that the Government can now take is to undertake an education program in the schools. People must action this themselves - bans will not work when people are addicted to it. Why they worry so much about smoking when alcohol/drugs do much more damage to society.

Having lived in the North and witnessed the death of generation after generation of people as a result of alcohol & dug abuse we are 40 years overdue in teaching the children the utter destruction of the family unit & thus the community this drug will cause.

This is not a problem restricted to the aboriginal population - just look at the news now a lot of kids only schooll age have started using this drug of choice - Why - They see the parents abusing it and think "It must be Ok then".

Maybe enough people will see that we do not need alcohol - who knows? Cheers with a cup of tea - TONY

Tony,

Nah, tea should be banned too!
It contains tannins and also caffeine, a strong drug that gives people a "sense of well being".

Ban everything!

Bill.

Bill - If that is what it takes I will be the first. HooRoo! Tony

G'day Tony, many people (not just on here) will disagree with you, but the list of problems you have put forward in this post are, as you say, not limited to any particular group of people.
Newcastle hoteliers have a similar accord re serving drinks at certain times of the night, no 'double shots', locking people in or out at a pre-determined time etc, all due to the behaviour of (mainly) younger people drinking to excess in this area of Australia, and the resultant anti social behaviour.
I had a drinking problem, and if I didn't modify my behaviour, Mrs Bushwhacker would be the EX Mrs Bushwhacker by now. I am not a wowser, but I now drink no alcohol, my preference for a coldie is a non-alcoholic 'beer' brewed by Coopers, called Birell... looks, smells, tastes (sorta) like a beer, but the label says 0.5% alcohol,( just to cover themselve in case there is the slightest residual amout left in the bottle after brewing). I buy it at the local supermarket.
Alcohol in moderation has no great effect on most people, the mate I generally go camping with, drinks around 2 beers a day on average, but some don't stop at two beers... I know I didnt!
Probably goes to show that acohol, like guns, are not the problem, people are. 'Whacker

Whacker - You are right people are the problem, but it also makes life interesting.

As I live in Australia I know most will not agree, I fully expect that response all the time. They have been brought up with the drink not being a bad thing. Only as the future unfolds will the problems that alcohol is causing be obvious to see, we are all too close to it at this time.

Consider that there is a lot of countries where alcohol is banned for good reason. It is another drug society does not need.

This is just a point of view I wish all could share for the sake of the future. I think as time goes on people will turn away from this drug.

As you say some people can stop at one and some can handle a good drink. Its not about moderation - You have to protect those that can not protect themselves.

This statement says it all - True Liberty exists in mans submission to a code of laws.

Am I serious yes - do I mind others wanting & having a drink - NO, not at all! Ive done what I can, practice what I preach :-). Cheers Tony

Alchohol is yet another thing that is dependant on the user.

On its own it is just another liquid in a container.

It certainly has addictive qualities to some and that should be addressed on an individual basis.

The main problem is the constant availability of it from all manner of outlets at all times of the day ... supported by constant in your face advertising to consume the stuff.

Personally ... I believe that a large part of the population drinks the way they do because advertising tells them they have too ... rather than because they enjoy a quiet drop.

Anybody remember the days of ten to ten trading hours / closed for most of sunday / clubs being a fri or sat night event / the higher legal drinking age ???

Been a lot of changes in recent years reinforcing the "need" to drink on an hourly basis and support the poor struggling alchohol industry ... must have been all the right changes tho ... all endorsed by govt ... so who are we to argue .......

Hi Tony,

As an almost non-drinker, I agree with you - alcohol is by far the worst drug our society has to try and cope with, its direct and indirect effects are more severe and far-reaching than all the other drugs put together.

Australian aboriginals are one of the very few indigenes in the world who had no alcohol of their own, and very little experience of it before Europeans arrived, thus probably explaining why they react so adversely to it.

A good start to alleviate its problem use would be to take the tobacco example and ban all alcohol advertising, along with any association or sponsorship of booze and sport.

It's difficult to do anything positive though, because of the powerful influence the grog industry has on politicians, and because of the reverence many people have for it.

Nic

Bottles certainly are a problem, but I've also found that both casks and cans, when bounced for too long, chafe through and one only discovers it when there's that familiar smell in the back of the vehicle, indicating a big cleanup to follow.

what about royalty monies from native title settlements, mining and exploration access, National park access payments etc

Fair call, but are these paid every week or just in lump sums now and again. If only now and again at least the big bing would not be so frequent?
All this talk of royalty payment has thinking.
Now i wonder if i can put in a claim against the English for taking my GGG granfathers farm in Ireland ? Surely i'm owed some sort of compensation? :)

Cheers Lyndon