How Waterproof is your Van

Submitted: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 20:45
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Mate has a late model van and as we are heading for hopefully another wet winter in Adelaide he and I decided to check out what the weather proofing was like underneath the plastic covering inserts on the Aluminium strips on the corners/roof of his van.

What did we find, fine dust and screws every 200mm or so. (If fine dust can get in so can water/rain) The screw heads did not have any silicon over them and the surrounds. So just in case the AL strip was not siliconed down underneath we covered the screw heads with white sticky silicon.

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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:12

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:12
Before using any more silicon on the van read this bit posted on the caravaners forum by the proprietor of a large repair organisation.

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For goodness sake remember, if you break or damage the window one day you will have to remove it some how. If it is sealed in with silicone or urethane then the chances of getting the frame off the van without destroying it are slim to nil, and you will damage the body of the van in the process. Why do you think the thing was originally fitted using a mastic or butyl type sealant? Because the manufacturer was concerned that the window would need to be removed one day. Later model vans have the windows siliconed or urethaned [Sikaflex] in because the manufacturers don't give a crap about the van once it has left their sight. Have some thought to the future, if you fit it with a permanent adhesive then that is what it becomes, very permanent. Butyl Mastic sealants, if applied properly should last at least ten years, and the unit will be easily repairable.

The same theory applies to painting the roof of vans with all sorts of painted on sealant, roof proof, bondcrete, thermocool or whatever. When the thing eventually leaks again, as it inevitably will, the repairer has an almost impossible job to reseal the unit quickly or economically. This painted on crap has to be removed first and that can be almost an impossibility in some instances. And don't think that the painted on crap will fix the leak permanently, it won't.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:23

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:23
Silicon comes away quite readily if need be, but Sikaflex is somewhat permanent!

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Follow Up By: disco driver - Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:48

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:48
x2 for silicon or butyl mastics

Sikaflex is the stuff they invented to stick sh*t to a blanket, once it's there, it's there for good almost.

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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 14:26

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 14:26
Sikaflex come in several types and can be used as the correct type doesnt set like silicone.
Also a neutral cure should be used as an acid cure will destroy stuff like fibreglass.

I worked as a roofer and we never used silicone beacause wherever there is movement it will pull off one side or the other.

We used a product called Secomastic which was a silver coloured sealer that never sets and is ideal on ducting and flashings on a roof because it allows two bits of metal to slide across each other without breaking the seal. .
There is a Sikaflex equivilent apparently.

I recently had to remove a window from my Roadstar and it has a sealant like this an I just smoothed it out and reinserted the window Hasnt leaked despite heavy rain recently.
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Reply By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 21:55

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 21:55
Many years ago my old Franklin Arrow developed some bad leaks around the widows and roof,i remoned the windows and ally mouldings around the roof to find the mastic style of sealer had dried up and shrunk. i cleaned all the moulds,window frames and caravan walls/roof before using a mastic of some sort ( the name eludes me at the minute) but years after doing it no leaks and it was still tacky. But in saying that my 2 year old Jayco with fibreglass sides has what is called 'caravan silicon' used to seal everything up on it including the windows. it is apparently lots more flexible than regular silicones. time will tell i guess.
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