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Submitted: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:02
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Well the time has come, have to replace tyres on Prado for upcoming trip. I am absolutely dreading this, as i have always just had the old 31''x10.5/15LTs the price has been bareable, but now with the 17'' wheels, the difference in price must be huge. I can remember 2 years ago paying $300 each for Cooper ATR 17'' for a Prado i was using. Punctured 3 tyres in 30klms, on a decent dirt road. Very expensive trip, luckily i wasnt paying.

The question is what would these tyres cost nowadays, just a ball park figure so i dont have a cardiac arrest when given a quote. I am thinking of 3 choices, Bridgestone Dueler 694s LT, BF Goodrich A/t or maybe even Cooper STTs i think they are. Dont like the standard Dunlop Grandtreks one bit. Preferably i want Bridgestone as i have always gotten good service from my 693s, hopefully the 694s are even better.

Not looking forward to it i tell ya now.
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:26

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 23:26
Hi Kroozer,
unfortunately I am in the same position as you. I have read all the threads about tyres that have come up in the last 3 months, and I am still none the wiser as to which tyre to buy.

Bob Jane has advertised the Bridgestone 265/65/R17 D694 RBT (haven't got a clue what RBT stands for) for $289 each. No idea if these are any good or how the price compares with other tyres. Many people have told me to steer clear of the Coopers ((including my local tyre dealer (in Darwin)). Just like you I am not looking forward to the change over and have been avoiding it as long as possible. My Dunlop AT20's (came with the Prado) have done 40k and are almost shot; I have looked after them as best I could, but they just don't cut it. Naturally I destroyed the two best tyres on a hidden stump on a recent club trip. Oh well... (:

The Bob Jane advert stated while stocks last or until June 30th. I need to find out what the RBT stands for and what the load capacity of the tyres are. Hope to do that tomorrow.

So maybe we can help each other here..! I will bring back to this site any info I get. All the best your end too...
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Follow Up By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 23:01

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 23:01
Fred, im pretty sure that RBT just stands for what sort of lettering is on it and that it is tubeless. So Raised black lettering and tubeless, basically just black writing on outside not white writing. I think if i can get Bridgestone for that price i will go them, been gettign easy 60,000 out of mine and with heaps of bush work. Yet to get a flat too, TOUCHWOOD.
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Reply By: HGMonaro - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 00:02

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 00:02
I have 694's (passenger construction) that have done 52K (I do have 6 tyres that have been rotated once! Two unsed one went to the front). No punctures yet and still a decent amount of tread left. They start off with a fair bit less than most other tyres. You can now get LT ones and also good 'ole BFG ATs in 265/65/17's apparently. $289 for a 694 is a decent price. Even AT20's are that much.. not sure if they sell any though! If you're tempted to fit 265/70/17's check with your states vehicle rules as they are illegal in some states, but ok in others. Insurance usually is ok if they are roadworthy, but check to be sure.

Cheers, Nige
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Reply By: CLC50 (QLD ) - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 06:20

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 06:20
Hi all

There is a great write up in this months 4WD Action No134 on tyres on all the Main Brand Mud Tyres on the market. This might give you some leads.I run Coopers AT & have had no troubles .
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Reply By: LeanneW - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 08:11

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 08:11
Hi Kroozer,
I priced 17" tyres recently.
Cooper ST $337
BF Goodrich MT $375
Mickey Thompson ATZ $345
I am going to try the Mickey Thompsons.
17" tyres aren't cheap, but at least they are a lot cheaper, and there is more to choose from than the 18" that came standard on my Pajero.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 15:36

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 15:36
. . . so did you buy 17" rims to replace the 18s ?
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Follow Up By: LeanneW - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 15:42

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 15:42
Yes. I decided that in the long run it would be the cheaper option. Also, it was going to be too hard to put 18" rims on our campertrailer.
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Reply By: SimonW - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 08:16

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 08:16
Hi Kroozer,
2 weeks ago I put new rubber on a GXL Prado & went with the ol'faithful even though they are starting to date in tyre technology, they have never let me down in the past. BFG- All terrains I went the next "legal" size up 275x65x17 cost $325ea, & if you buy a set they give you a free Bushranger Black max compressor. The standard size tyre was 265x65x17 @ $305ea, if you go the taller profile 265x70x17 they were $335ea.
Note: BFG do not have a mud terrain to fit the 17" prado wheel size

cheers Simon.
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Reply By: downtools - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 08:17

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 08:17
G'day Kroozer,
Have just gone through that decision, although we have 16" rims on a patrol.
I've had 2 sets of 694's in 265/70/16 size and found that....
- They wore faster than bf
- Were absolutely useless in mud
- Were VERY quiet on bitumen and handled great.
- Easy to balance (bfg were a pain)
The patrol weighs in at just over 3 ton so was after a slightly more aggressive AT and bought a set of Micky Thompson ATZ in the 4 rib pattern.
It's only been 5000k but so far very impressed.
Last weekend we went up to the hills around Lithgow with lots of rain and the tyres were much better than the Bridgestones on wet clay. there were 6 other vehicles and another patrol with 693's found the going a little harder.
They are suprisingly quiet on road, not noticibly noisier than the 694's but it's early days, they might get loader as they wear.
The tyres were $315ea for 265/75/16 at the tyre king.
Good luck Cheers Nifty
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Reply By: George_M - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 08:59

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 08:59
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Reply By: Anthony (Vic) - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 09:42

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 09:42
Hi Kroozer

While you do have the range to choose from with 17inch tyres, I can suggest the option I took.

Instead of 65 profile go for 70 profile.
Instead of 265 wide, go for 245 wide.

I put on Cooper STT in 245/70-17. They are the same diameter as the original GXL Prado tyres, so the speedo is spot on.

The STT's are a silica based compound tyre. They don't suffer the ripping of blocks that the ST seem to suffer.

Due to the compound, they grip a heap better than the BFG AT on wet tar.

I've done 45,000kms on mine and still plently of tread left.

I find them good value but I would think they would be around the $340 plus mark now.

Cheers Anthony
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Reply By: chisel - Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 14:31

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 14:31
I priced a few 275/65/17 and 265/70/17 tyres for the landcruiser recently. Slightly bigger than standard prado tyres. You won't get any change out of $350 per tyre for most of the 17" LT tyres (MT, Coopers, Bridgestones, Procomp). I went with the 694LT.
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Reply By: Member - John L (WA) - Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 10:11

Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 10:11
forget all those fancy micky wots-his name and gooderich etc. Try Bravo Maxxis. I've had five sets of these on a Discovery and a Prado - they were under $200 but the laST set were around $225 from my locaL dealer.
Every set has given me over 100k mileage and apaart from a couple of stoness thru sidewalls have been excellent. this is over all terrain with possibly 70/80% highway running.
The secret is to run soft when on rocks and corrugations - around 30/33 psi
... Lockie
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