Why close Yengo NP to 4WDS?

Submitted: Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 20:33
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Out of the thousands of hectares of natural wilderness, how much has been destroyed by 4wds??... " I'LL tell you"

Buggerall!, The amount you can get into is nothing. Its a very popular spot for a weekend camp, and also for the mum and dad sunday drive (picnic). Campers and bush walkers aloud in. Once off the vehicle track whats the bloody difference?.

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Reply By: Beddo - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 20:52

Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 20:52
Yengo is not being closed to 4WD's, access you have had for the last 10yrs will remain, no change to access with the declaration.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 20:58

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 20:58
Not quite what was said on the ABC. I still think that the full story needs to get out.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 22:20

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 22:20
A GREEN chain now encircles Sydney with the declaration today that 120,000 hectares of bushland north of the city will be protected as wilderness.

As his government continues to implode around him, Premier Nathan Rees took to the Hunter Valley this morning to announce the addition of the bushland in Yengo National Park to the State's wilderness register.

The parcel of land which stretches from the Blue Mountains east to Windsor and up to Singleton.completes a ring of wilderness that now surround Sydney like a green arc.

“We have now created a network of wilderness areas around the state which protect more than two million hectares of unique bushland for future generations,” Mr Rees said.

“Around Sydney we have a green chain made up of Nattai, Kanangra-Boyd, Grose, Wollemi and Yengo wilderness areas.

“Wilderness declaration is the highest form of protection for natural landscapes and protects the most intact expanses of our remaining bushland.

“The latest declaration over the most pristine part of Yengo National Park will protect many threatened plant and animal species.

“Aboriginal, environment and recreational park users were all consulted during the comprehensive process to identify and declare the newly protected area."

• A total of 8.39% (6.7 million hectares) of NSW is now conserved within the parks system, made up of 793 national park and reserve areas

• Since 1995 the NSW Government has established more than 455 new reserves and expanded hundreds of others.

• NSW has 49 declared wilderness areas within national parks and reserves

• Total area of declared wilderness is 2,057,759 hectares, or just over 2% of NSW, up from 664,000 hectares in 1995
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Reply By: pojo - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 21:12

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 21:12
Just another labour greenie policy off locking it up and then wait for mother nature to strike short memories
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 22:20

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 22:20
You hit the nail on the head.
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:59

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:59
As they say,

The only true wilderness is between a greenies ears.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

Cheers Dodg.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:03

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:03
Quite right Dodger, which side of this argument are you on? If we don't protect it, the only wilderness we have will be between everyone's ears - in their memories. Bit like that much underrated film "Soylent Green" where at a time in the not too distant future, as a special treat, old people get to look at films of what wilderness areas on the planet once were like. And they die crying.
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Follow Up By: Beddo - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 21:59

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 21:59
The area was already locked off - no trails of any interest have existed in the declaraed wilderness area !
The Big Yango area with its great little loop trail remains, Womerah Range you can get a permit for & the Old settlers is open until you get to private property.
Do you know which tracks will be locked off that were not locked off a year ago or 10yrs ago ? The only trails that this wilderness may close are 2 trails off the Putty Rd ie Wallaby Swamp & another overgrown trail to the south called Howes Range trail (not Howes Valley Trail) which are overgrown anyway & go nowhere - no one ever uses them, except for illegal activities - stealing bushrock, dumping cars & rubbish etc. These 2 tracks will not be missed - & they will not be gated anyway, the bush will reclaim them as it has been doing over the years, if people use them they would be clear but people don't. they get opened up during wild fires to be used as control lines but thats it.

The wilderness area declared is not protecting anything that was not already protected under the current management of Yengo National Park. Fancy wording made it sound impressive.
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Reply By: Ozboc - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:27

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:27
A lot of "Grose" has been fenced off - you cant even get in now at Cabbage Tree road ( Karajong ) last time i was up there

shame as there are some great look outs up there -- access only by foot now and its about 15 KM walk to the river

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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:48

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:48
a) NSW is broke
b) Declaring a Wilderness means no money needs to be spent on it.

b) follows a)
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Reply By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:59

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:59
If nothing else it will reduce the number of feral pigs that will get swine flu :)

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Reply By: The Landy - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:57

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:57
Access hasn't changed for 99.99 pct of four-wheel drivers to this park.

Whilst not a fan of seeing areas closed off, in this instance people are getting wound up over nothing.....
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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 11:12

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 11:12
Wasting your time with common sense posts. If people want to run round like chooks with their heads cut off,let them
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