CAUTION LC 200 AIR CLEANER

Submitted: Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:09
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Hi All
Just spent 10 days in Clermont gold detecting lots of dust no gold.I thought it would be a good idea to check air cleaner element and maybe blow it out. To my suprise dust traces had appeared on the engine side of the element housing. It looks like the hold down clips are too far apart and not applying enough pressure to maintain a good seal against the rubber rim of the element.Has anyone come across the same issue. It may be worth checking if you have been in dusty conditions.
Regards to all

atfgold dave




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Reply By: In Good Time - Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:33

Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:33
Dave

Check post 68959 same problem with lots of dust passing filter and Toyota consider the dust bypassing to be with in tolerance.

Very disappointed with Toyota's reply and lack of action to correct problem.
This may come back to haunt them.

Pete.
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:55

Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:55
Dave

I'll be up there in about 3 weeks. I'm in Tassie at the moment and have ordered topo maps for the area.

I hope I have more luck than you have had.

Regards BooBoo
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Follow Up By: atfgold dave - Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 13:23

Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 13:23
Hi Boo Boo
The golds certainly there as i saw some nice bits found by some of the regulars. Unfortunatly prospecting is restricted to GPA areas and fairly well monitored. The long grass has been a bit of a problem this season and at the end of the day you do have to walk over the stuff (gold) to snag a bit if your lucky. Make sure you bring the minelab GPX 4500 and a big pick as the areas have been well worked over the years.Barry at the van park is the man to see for all the permits etc.
Regards and good luck
atfgold dave
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Reply By: atfgold dave - Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:59

Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:59
Thanks Pete
I thought i had read of the problem but not sure where. Sure sounds strange that any dust into the air intake would fall within a tolerance. I spent many years in the auto manufacturing industry (Ford Motor Co) in the product engineering and tooling.The design of the air box on the lc 200 ttd is in need of 4 more hold-down clips to ensure the mating surfaces seal on the element. May have to put the good old ocky strap to use until Toyota get a few 'dusted' engine under their belt.
Kind Regards
atfgold dave.
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Reply By: get outmore - Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 13:07

Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 13:07
unsure why they didnt keep the old one - it was always considered the best in the business
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 14:02

Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 14:02
Hi Dave
Have you considered putting a snorkel on your vehicle. I have a 120 series Prado and after my first trip off road, it was the first thing that I put on the Vehicle. The long term effect has kept the air cleaner a lot cleaner and a fraction as much dust as one that uses no snorkel. In that way you will be getting cleaner air from windscreen height, rather than from under the front guard.

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Follow Up By: atfgold dave - Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 15:10

Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 15:10
Hi Stephen
A snorkel would keep the filter clean but thats not the problem. The air box that houses the air cleaner element is not sealing even if you had a cyclonic air cleaner on if the housing is not sealing anything prior to the filter element is not going to stop dust being literally vacuumed in from the engine bay aft of the filter.
Regards Dave
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Reply By: Grungle229 - Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 20:28

Friday, Jun 05, 2009 at 20:28
If it is within tolereance, I would be asking what that tolerance is and how they came to determine this. Ask for the reference material that they refer to and go from there.

Cheers
David
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 at 09:24

Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 at 09:24
I have a 100 Series and use one of those thick, black rubber, marine grade straps as a precautionary measure across the top of the filter box as I'm dubious about those clips too.

If you do go down this path, make sure you get one of the good quality versions and not the cheap Chinese 'knock off' makes (you can tell because they're about 4 times the price).

I don't know about the 200 series, but on the 100 you can get a larger Toyota element to fit in the standard box for heavy duty applications. The other word I got was to use factory Toyota filters and not the Supacrap versions as although they look the same, they're not.
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Follow Up By: atfgold dave - Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 at 11:44

Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 at 11:44
Hi V8

That's a good tip. Currently in Cardwell. Will sure visit the boat shop in Cairns on Tuesday.

Regards Dave
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Reply By: coolamine - Thursday, Jul 02, 2009 at 21:53

Thursday, Jul 02, 2009 at 21:53
Yes they are aware of it, but seem reluctant to do anything; dust entry in any form is detrimental to the longevity of the motor, they (toyota) say it is acceptable; hopefully they will soon take the concern seriusly especially if enough bring it to their attention. The 200 series is a great motor vehicle, no incredible motor vehicle and I am confident they will do something. In the meantime I have investigated after market filters and extra stapping, seems crazy that one has to do that, but then again we are in an era where no one in the management chain of big business is able to make a decision due to hierachial ignorance.

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