Hot Showers??
Submitted: Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 17:02
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Simo & Stace
Hi Guys,
Just wandered what people use for showers when traveling. Am thinking either a portable one like the Coleman, Primus, or maybe the showers that hook up to the car like the Glind, Pirahna and Twine. Does any body have any info on how good any of these are and are they worth it?
At the mo i'm leaning towards the Glind, but that's only from half an our playing on the net...
Cheers Simo
Reply By: Member - Cram (Newcastle NSW) - Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 17:23
Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 17:23
I have a primus. I have been lucky, crosses fingers, I have had not problems with
mine but I know alot of people that have.
I reckon if I was buying again I would go Glind or similar. They take up no room, there always with you, you don't need gas and relatively speaking they are no more expensive.
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Reply By: Tenpounder (SA) - Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 17:24
Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 17:24
Hi there. We've been carrying around a Primus 12v pump unit (drop the pump into a bucket of warm water; plug in and go). Not yet used it because my wife is quite happy with a 'top and tail wash', and I don't need showers (my body stops smelling after three days anyway).
Biggest issue once you have a shower system is whether or not to erect a shower tent as
well, if so, that's more space occupied. And if privacy isn't a problem, then it's easy to strip off and have a wash with a couple of litres of water.
We've often had total
water supply problems when away from 'civilisation', such that we haven't wanted to be profligate with scarce water e.g. in
the desert).
Simplicity has prevailed in our case!!
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Reply By: Member - Peter STONE @ groges- Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 18:55
Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 18:55
Simo : I used to go up to
Tamala Station every year. A lot of those electric showers you buy don't last long.
I made a very reliable shower out of a Bilge pump .Connected a couple of alligator clips got a little motor bike battery, hooked up to some garden retic
hose screwed on a rose and Bob's your uncle.
The showing water up there wasn't the best, didn't want to put in caravan water tank so used to heat up water on the old outdoor fire (could use gas)
tipped it into a 20 ltr bucket in the shower recess, with the bilge pump in it,
switch it on...........
You could use it for outside , put pipe into river/whatever (connected to bilge pump of course.Submerge bilge pump in a bucket and put in river,creek,
dam.
A bit long winded but hope it helps.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 18:56
Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 18:56
Simo,
It probably gets down to how often you intend to use it as to how much you are prepared to pay.
When we are
bush camping, we find we only have (need) a shower every third day or so, otherwise you need to be close to a supply of water.
When carrying a hundred litres of water (or less) you need to ensure you don't run short using the precious supply to wash daily.
We use a $30 battery operated portable shower and have no problems at all.
Bill.
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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 20:24
Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 20:24
Good old solar shower here! Folds nice and small doesnt need heaps of water, nothing really to go wrong and if there's no sun we heat a bit of water on the stove and add that. Two can shower with the one bag and that includes me washing my hair, (Ian is somewhat folicularly challenged so doesnt have the problem with hair washes). We love bushcamping and so conserving our water is a must.
Of course I am always trying to steer the Jeep toward the warmer climates whereas my much loved hubby prefers to go South, something to do with the fact he works in the northwest for weeks at a time and doest want to go back on days off. Dont get it myself :-)
Sue
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 20:28
Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 20:28
G'day Simo,
I got a Glind on one of the GU's, it is about 12yrs old and been on 4 vehicles. It is still as good today as it was when I 1st bought it. You can get a very good hot shower from it but the problem I have with them is if you need to stop/start your shower. The initial water temp when you re-start your shower is scalding hot to the point of burn factor 10, they are very dangerous in this situation. Most showers in the bush require you to stop/start as water is precious so it is a bit annoying in this manner.
I also have a coleman and think this unit (now about 1yr old) is also very good and probably a better option than the glind for us (2Adults 2Kids). The Glind rarely gets used now but it has
well and truely paid for itself over the years. I hope I get as good a run out of the Coleman as I have had from the Glind.
I also had a much cheaper immitation Coleman and it was cr@p so I would steer clear of these if they are still available from Super Cr@p Auto stores.
Cheers Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 13, 2009 at 08:55
Saturday, Jun 13, 2009 at 08:55
Trevor, there is a simple, cheap way to avoid scalding with on board showers. MM if you are interested. Ian
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Saturday, Jun 13, 2009 at 20:04
Saturday, Jun 13, 2009 at 20:04
Hi Ian,
I have seen your rig
pic and tried to understand what you have done with your bypass setup on your shower but it seems a bit above me to work it out :-(( I have actually looked at it a few times but still no luck.
I seem to recall a post on this exact subject from you many years ago but even then I didn't understand it. Maybe if you explain it again, this time I will get it? If you do not wish to explain it on this thread and would prefer to send it via MM that would be great.
Have been very much in the mood to fix long term annoying problems I have had with my setup lately so this may
well be the next fixed item.
Thanks again Ian,
Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Jun 14, 2009 at 14:53
Sunday, Jun 14, 2009 at 14:53
Trevor,
I also had trouble trying to understand how the bypass set-up would work... Seems like more plumbing to me.
Instead, we just have the bucket of water in the shower tent with us and leave the shower flowing all the time. We simply drop the shower head into the bucket whenever we aren't actually using it. So, jump in, wet down, drop rose into bucket while soaping up/shampooing etc, get rose out and rinse off, drop rose back into bucket.
Doing it this way also means that the bucket of water actually heats up as the water is constantly circulating. It gets to the point where I have to shut the motor off and just leave the pump running (it's wired independantly off the batteries).
Cheers
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 14, 2009 at 18:51
Sunday, Jun 14, 2009 at 18:51
Roachie, If you would like a picture and explanation just MM with your email and I will oblige.
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:12
Monday, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:12
Yeah Roachie we do exactly as you described it, when using the Glind.
I also have heard of people using pressure pump garden sprayers with success as a shower. Fill container with warm water, pump it full of pressure and away you go. In theory this sounds OK as a shower to me but have not seen or tried this setup first hand.
Cheers, Trevor.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 21:05
Friday, Jun 12, 2009 at 21:05
Just my opinions over the past 30 years:
#1 We have a bird bath using about a litre of water from the thermos every day anyway, so the shower is only used every 3-4 days.
#2 Solar showers sound clever, but you can't use them in the morning, they take ages to heat up and you can't regulate the temperature, and the bags are a pain to fill.
#3 Fancy Heat Exchangers like Glind and Twine: I used one for 3 years - that was long enough. They are good with an unlimited supply of water - you can have a decent shower on continuous flow. But if you try to conserve water, you'll get a boiling hot/cold shower, unless you simply use it as a water heater. And warming up a diesel motor takes ages at idle rpm.
#4 The stainless steel bucket. Buy an 8 or 10 litre crockpot from CheapAsChips for $10. Fill it with water, sit it next to the fire or on the stove and 5 minutes later, it is perfect temp for a shower. Drop in the $20 electric pump and you can have a great shower - to stop wasting water, just drop the shower head back into the crockpot. Wet yourself for the soap up, then rinse off. If the $20 pump were to stuff up (usually after 12 months of camping) then use a coffee cup. We actually find this works better!!!!
Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Brenton H (SA) - Saturday, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:40
Saturday, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:40
Ditto all the above....Plus
#If you take a Coleman/ Primus unit they are bulky and heavy. I have enough junk with me now without that extra.
#Also one down side of the Glind type unit is the car has to be where you want to take the
shower. If you need privacy in the daylight (not a lot of trees in the desert) it's not always easy to drive off over the
hill with the car if your offsider also needs it to prepare dinner, get a cold beer and set up camp etc
Cheers
Brenton
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Jun 14, 2009 at 15:04
Sunday, Jun 14, 2009 at 15:04
G'day Phil,
As I've mentioned above, we do use an under-bonnet
shower (
Helton exchanger actually). Using the same principal as you do (as regards dropping the
shower head into the bucket whilst lathering-up etc), we don't waste much water.
The glossy ad's fro Twine, Glind etc all show the (usually shapely woman) standing under the fixed-position
shower rose, showering in such a way that she'd probably use 200 litres of water!!! These ad's don't do the supplier any favours in my mind, because they sow the seed in the mind of the buyer that you "must" have a pole on the bullbar and have the water running non-stop; most of it being wasted.
This is not the case at all.
We are a family of 5 and quite honestly, we can all have a scrub using the one 20 litre (nappy bucket) of water. We only do this every 3 days or so and if on a desert-type trip, this can get extended to 4 or (dare i say?) even 5 days!!! PHEW!!!! hahahahaha
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 21:21
Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 21:21
Gday Roachie,
If you had more daughters and fewer sons, you're water usage would go up heaps :-))) Something to do with hair!
We ended up using ours as a water heater - use the exchanger to heat up a big tub of water and then turn the engine off. That way the temperature would be constant and they can take as long as they like having a
shower. Then when I got the 79series I was keen not to cut into the cooling system and space under the bonnet was limited, and I tought the
stainless steel pot next to the fire was a bit simpler. Our kids gave up
camping once they turned that magic age of 13ish!
BTW, we just got back from a few days R&R at the cabin on the Horsehoe - I think you were there a few years back. Missed out on driving the tracks because of the rain - had to walk them instead. Tracks were still difficult - ended up on my backside coming down after Stokes
Hill......
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