Betta Built recon engine
Submitted: Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:29
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On Patrol & TONI
No not for me, TONI is fine thanks. (just in case your asking Matt M (ACT))
A friend has had a mishap with his Pajero petrol V6 3.5 (pampas pussycat) and blown a hole in a cylinder, maybe that Queensland air did the job on his engine as he has just got
home from Frazer Is.
He has done his homework, and come up with a Betta Built reco as the viable option. $3800 inc installation & 12mth parts & lab warranty etc. Your thoughts please.
He wants to know how good they are, historically, from anyone that has used their engines.
A motor from Higginbottom's is over $4200 inc installation, and are they worth the extra dosh & why????
Looking forward to your replies.
Colin.
Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:35
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:35
I reckon he couldn't go past a 1HDFT hehehehehe
Will he make it to
St George or will you have to tow him the whole way??
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 21:04
Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 21:04
hey Kev
maybe i should hang on to my car trailer and tow him and my camper to
St George?
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Reply By: howesy - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:38
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:38
Higginbottoms used to be the ducks guts years ago but they sacrificed quality to keep up with prices they are no better than any other these days.
Betta Built have been around for a long time and I have known a couple of people with them my son included. he has a Betta built 4.1 falcon engine for around 4 years and it goes great.
Of course all this is just my opinion but I would go for the Betta Built
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:40
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:40
Thanks howesy that the sort of feed back we are looking for, first hand experience. Thanks. Colin.
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:39
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:39
has he tried a new one from mitsubishi. dont laugh some times there new out of the box motors with their warranty can be cheaper than a rebuild.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:41
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 19:41
Worth a look thanks. Colin.
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Follow Up By: Member - Donks1 (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:25
Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:25
G'day Colin
Depending on age a new short motor from Mitsu is around $3600
Donks1
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Reply By: Gramps - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 20:49
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 20:49
First the bike now the rally 'has been', what next LOL
Regards
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 22:05
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 22:05
Certainly NOT TONI, maybe the wheels on the new CT. LOL Thats impossible he cannot tow it right now, He He He.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 21:11
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 21:11
Colin....maybe a turbo diesel from a prado will fit......sorry couldnt help it.....my first question would be...how long will he want to keep it for? Second question would be....has he had the problem diagnosed properly? Maybe a valve has burnt...and a head service would fix it up...either way, its going to cost heaps for a new motor,or a reco set of heads.... but if he cant do the work himself, thats probably the best option...the next best would be a wrecker puttng a motor in from a wreck, tow in, drive out...then there is the third option of pickles.com and the local mechanic...plus added benefit of getting lots of spares for the Paj to keep or ebay off and pay most of the debt back.
You can buy a wrecked magna with thesame motor for alot less too .....
Andrew
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 22:14
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 22:14
Andrew,
1: Who knows
2: Yes.
3: Magna engine is NOT the same, different comp ratios, distributor Ign as to the paj coil packs, in fact the only things the same are the block and possibly the heads!!! Yes he checked that out too.
Thanks for the thoughts mate.
Colin.
PS say hi to the boys, nice kids them.
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 22:25
Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 22:25
Do the magna 3.5's have dizzys?? some magnas come with the "no2" motor, dedicated gas capable and high comp. I know The older astron mitsi motors had different gearbox patterns auto to manual....so i am not surprised there could be differences....
Andrew
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Reply By: psproule - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 21:12
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 21:12
MMAL was clearing stocks of 6G74 short motors for next to nothing a while ago. I think a few have popped up on ebay recently for around $500. What year model Paj?
Pat
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 22:16
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 22:16
We will look into that one, thanks. Its a 1997-8 I think
Colin.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 23:11
Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 23:11
that should be the same as magna sisters new v6 cost 1600 new out of a box with 2 yr warranty
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:10
Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:10
Member - Stuart P
The Magna engine is speced for a road car and therefor needs better "top end" performance, whereas a 4wd is the opposite needing better "bottom end" performance.
Magna engine is NOT the same, different comp ratios 9:1 as opposed to 9.5:1 , distributor ignintion as opposed to the pajero's coil packs, different cams, in fact the only things the same are the block and possibly the heads!!! Maybe those things wont make much difference normally UNTIL you cross a deep stream or climb a steep rocky
hill in low range.
Yes he checked that option out too.
Thanks for your thoughts mate.
Colin.
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Follow Up By: psproule - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 17:21
Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 17:21
Many people have swapped the Magna motors over just the same. Just had to change all the ancillaries and live with the different comp ratios. They also tun a different crank - cast vs forged.
Pat
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 20:40
Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 20:40
i thought they were the same motor with the coil packs on top and only the gear boxes made the difference you learn something new every day
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