2002 PRADO versus 2002 Pajero
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Please Help,
I am currently looking at
buying a 4WD for Metro with a small amount of 4WDing.
I have looked at a 2002 Prado with 100000k's that felt a bit bumpy to drive and am going to be testdriving a 2002 Pajero tomorrow with 170000ks on it.
Any advice would be great.
Thanks Chris
Reply By: BenDiD - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:11
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:11
Hi Chris,
I had an 03 Pajero (Petrol) that I loved. It was an NP, ie the model after the 02 which is an NM. (The differences between the 2 were largely cosmetic, unless you talk about early Petrol NMs which had a 3.5L V6 which lacked the ESP ectc available on later 3.8L NMs and NPs.)
I think the two vehicles (Pajero and Prado) are very comparable and so it will be a bit difficult to pick one over the other. My approach (when I bought my first Paj) was to just pick the car I most enjoyed driving, without over thinking things.
The Pajero should drive a little better around town because of the independent
suspension. I assume they are both petrol or both diesel? For that year the Paj diesel has more grunt, don't know about the comparison between the petrol versions other than to say they will both be thirsty.
70Ks is quite a difference, so given the machines are fairly
well matched (watched the furore that comment will provoke), I would go for the one that feels, looks and drives like its in better condition. Ie, why buy a vehicle thats done a very hard 100K and looks like it's been flogged its whole life over one driven by
grey wanderers for the last 7 years. Of course if the situation is reversed, I wouldn't buy a Paj with much higher Ks just because it has better whatever (eg clearance, fuel economy etc - I don't know that it does, just illustrating a point).
Good luck, pretty hard to go wrong either way. If you have any really technical questions about either vehicle try the Victorian Pajero Club website and
forum and the Prado Point website.
cheers
Ben
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Follow Up By: psproule - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 05:28
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 05:28
The NM never had the 3.8 motor. ESC, ETC and so on only came in the late DID diesel Exceed NM. And be wary of the early NM diesels as they will have the 2.8 motor rather than the 3.2.
An 02 prado will have the old diesel too - reliable but under-powered IMHO. The 4.0L petrol is a powerhouse and not too bad on fuel.
If you found a Prado bumpy you will hate the Pajero then. www2.pajeroclub.com.au/
forum has a very strong community of Pajero owners. Pradopoint for the prados.
Pat
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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 13:00
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 13:00
Ive always thought the Pajero bumpier also.
I wouldnt let that bother you,coil spring swaps are not all that dear if you
shop around.
It also might need new shockies. I read somewhere it was advised to change Prado shocks more often ,especially the front ones.
Its also supposed to improve the steering at speed.
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Reply By: Member - Kevin R (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:23
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:23
Hi Chris,
I can only speak for the Prado. I had an 02 turbo diesel since new which I sold last year. I think I paid about 52k new and sold it 6 years and 180,000k later for $25,500. Apart from normal servicing, the prado's only mechanical repair was a front diff bearing at 170,000k. It still had the original clutch when sold. We took it off road on a regular basis with several long trips thrown in.
I was so happy with it I now have an 08 D4D which in 30,000k has not had a warranty claim.
A suggestion though. If it has or you intend to have steel bullbar/winch I strongly suggest aftermarket
suspension as the standard is too soft for the weight so far forward.
Cheers
Kevin
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Follow Up By: BenDiD - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 15:55
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 15:55
Chris,
I make the same comment (re Pajero) about aftermarket
suspension (at the very least stiffer springs) for the front if you are going to mount a steel bullbar. If you want a bar but
suspension work sounds a bit too much trouble take a look at Smart Bars - polyurethane and widely used by NSW Police on its Pajeros.
Ben
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:30
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:30
Prado has a separate chassis while a Pajero does not. Hence they are very different designed vehicles.
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Reply By: tim_c - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:59
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:59
Have you also considered a Jackaroo? They are similar size but more comfortable from all accounts I've heard.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 13:01
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 13:01
Good morning Tim,
I suspect they used two diff suspensions on Jacks. Our Nullarbor was very soft and a bit floaty till I put heavy duty Max trac shocks on it, sons o2 se is very firm(factory original according to owner), which I prefer anyway.
The Nullarbor hads lots of Monteray options thrown at it, so may have a softer Monteray
Suspension.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: ChristaJezz - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:50
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:50
G'day Chris,
We just bought a 2004 Prado 4.0V6 VX and could not be happier. It is a beautiful car to drive and we can not fault the build quality. Just fitted sequential gas injection with a flash lube kit. We will be mainly towing with occasional mild off road.
Both exceptional vehicles and could not find much wrong with either of them with the 18 months research we did prior to our purchase. Pajero tended to have more bang for your buck.
If you intend fitting gas to the Pajero you will have to remove the third row seats when not in use as the underfloor stowage is lost when the gas
tank is fitted. No major drama. Mitsi also more accepting of gas conversion.
Check out the Pajero and Prado specific forums for detailed information.
Sorry for this, but have you looked at the Pathfinder ? Finish not as good and reported to be not as good off road but pretty impressive on paper. Again could not find much wrong with them.
Good luck with your search.
Cheers,
Jezz.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 16:13
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 16:13
2002 Prado would be the last of the 90series. 3.4 petrol V6 or 1KZ-TE TD.
2002 Pajero would be the monocoque chassis.
The prado is a better offroad vehicle
The Pajero is a better on-road vehicle.
Both are
well sorted and reliable.
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Reply By:- Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 22:14
Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 at 22:14
The Prado is the 3.4ltr Petrol Auto.
The Pajero is the GLS Petrol. I test drove the Pajero today and it drove quite
well.
The bumpiness on the Prado test drive may have been caused due to the car needing new tyres all the way round.
I can get the Pajero for about $2600 cheaper than the Prado, the Prado has no ABS or Airbags where the Pajero has no Roo Bar or Side Steps.
Thanks
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Reply By: chisel - Friday, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:30
Friday, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:30
I'd probably choose the Pajero if the Prado is a 90 series. But if you can stretch your budget a little, consider the DiD Pajero from around then. The petrol will be thirsty (as would the prado petrol).
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