2nd spare tyre
Submitted: Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 14:59
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About to head off for a month in GU patrol with 285/75/17 Cooper STT's. Will be travelling from SEQ to
birdsville,
simpson desert crossing, alice, uluru,
oodnadatta, strezlecki, innaminka, coomgie lakes and home. What is the general consensus with these tyres, correct tyre pressures run. Should i be taking 2 spares? What is the consensus?
Thanks Shane
Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 15:10
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 15:10
Shane
If you only take 1 and use it then you cannot afford another flat,If you take it and don't use it that's good, if you leave it home and need it....that's bad. as for pressures etc you'll find that info all over EO, In
Blogs and Treks is where I'd look.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 17:12
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 17:12
Here Here Doug,
The stress of travelling with no spare, knowing you just used your one and only, is too much to contemplate.
Extra Spare wheel with tyre
Extra Case to put on wheel
Extra Tubes.
Especially with 17".
What ever, just do it.
Colin.
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Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 15:12
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 15:12
Shane, as you are running 17" it maybe a good idea to take a second spare tyre may be scarce out that way? Do you have the
tools etc to change a tyre onto a rim? If so, it saves a fair bit of weight just taking a spare tyre, not a complete rim etc. If you do end up taking a spare tyre only, put a tube in it and inflate it, it keeps all the crap out of the tyre, much nicer to work with if it is clean. As to pressure, depends on all up weight, conditions, speed etc, etc. Just my two cents worth. Have a great trip. John
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 15:17
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 15:17
Shane,
You are going to get some different opinions with this one.
I have done a bit of travelling in that part of the world and never had a puncture, lucky me. If your tyres are in good condition I would think you would be OK with just 1, BUT, if you do get stuck you will be really stuck.
Most of my travelling has been done with a trailer which has tyres that match the car and I carry a spare on the car and a spare on the trailer. I also carry the
tools to be able to repair a tyre myself.
Can you remove a tyre from the rim and replace it? Can you plug a tyre? If you can then you might get away without carrying a second spare. You could also consider a spare tyre without the wheel.
I am pretty confident and recently did a trip through SA including
Goog's track, the Strz and Cameron's Corner with just the one spare. It was a risk but it was calculated on my knowledge of the area and many years of experience.
A complete extra spare is painful to carry but you may wish you had it.
Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 15:25
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 15:25
Forgot to mention tyre pressures.
My rule of thumb is as follows.
Highway pressure is about 40psi. When I hit the dirt I drop 25%, that comes out around 30psi. When the road conditions deteriorate further I drop 25%, that comes out about 22/23psi. When I hit the sand I drop a further 25%, that comes out around 18psi.
As I say it is a rule of thumb and provides me with a starting point, if I find that the pressure is uncomfortable for any reason I adjust it from there as seems appropriate. In the Simpson for instance I got as low as 13psi.
When travelling around
Innamincka and Coongie I ran tyre pressures in the mid 20s. Remember when you drop tyre pressures drop your speed as
well.
Duncs
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 16:35
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 16:35
38 on the Tar.
28 on the rough roads.
18 on the sand.
Bit less speed if heavily loaded.
If I was running 285/75/17 Coopers STT's I'd definately be carrying 2 spares but as I don't I only carry one for that type of trip with a comprehensive repair kit & tools :-)
Cheers Craig...............
285/75/16 MTR's
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 16:42
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 16:42
I second that :-), Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Blaze (Berri) - Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 03:52
Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 03:52
Crackles has it down pat,
Pressures are spot on and I would take an overdraft with you if you have to buy a tyre out that way.. Take the second spare and sleep
well at night.
I have done lots of these areas numerous times and no punctures touch wood, I run 32 X 10.5 X 15 but always have 2 spares and if I have the camper in tow, I have interchangable spares with 2 on vehicle and 1 on the camper, best insurance you can get.
Cheers
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 16:58
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 16:58
1 Spare + 1 tube + ability to repair both.
Without knowing vehicles weight its hard to reccomend pressure , but its always a few psi less than standard on the
Birdsville type tracks an a bit slower as
well with 15-20 on the sand.
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Reply By: On Patrol & TONI - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 17:05
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 17:05
Shane,
a 2nd spare, never leave home without it.
I don't give a tinkers cus what BRAND you are talking about, NO tyre is so much better than another despite what ANYONE says.
If anyone says that "X" brand is better than "Y" brand, they are kidding themselves only.
Carry an extra spare, because Murphy will be with you if you don't.
Colin
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 17:55
Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 at 17:55
Also knowing the ability of GU patrols to throw
wheels at the drop of a hat I would be taking a second spare. Plus the fact that you have 17"
wheels will leave your tyre walls a bit exposed. good luck with what ever you choose.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 06:19
Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 06:19
Saw a landcruiser in Carlingford the other day with only 3
wheels attached, wasnt yours I hope!!!!!
Cheers Colin.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 07:11
Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 07:11
Im not sure if he has 17s??
he said they were 285x75 Im sure they might be available in 17 but i dont think there common
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 07:14
Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 07:14
in fact cooper dont make that size tyre
they would either be 285x70x17 or 285x75x16
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Reply By: Brett Lightfoot - Tuesday, Jul 21, 2009 at 20:13
Tuesday, Jul 21, 2009 at 20:13
take the second, I have done that trip and not had one then others on the same route get half a dozen, at least if you do have one you know you have a spare after the first flat . Having to buy a replacement tyre in a remote town also always costs a small fortune if you can not repair it, and if it's not a common size it may have to be trucked in. You can pick up bolts and debri other cars have rattled out on tracks like the
oodnadatta that stake your rears.
Pressure is ultimately your call , every car , load type combo is different and you have to try a few different ones in various conditions to work out what makes sense.
Brett
www.rentarig.com.au
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Reply By: equinox - Tuesday, Jul 21, 2009 at 20:20
Tuesday, Jul 21, 2009 at 20:20
Great tyre - chances are you will not get a puncture the whole trip.
Pressures - Go 40psi....rain, hail, shine, mud, sand, rocks, whatever..
If you get in trouble, lower pressures slightly.
Cheers
Alan
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