Outback Way Winton to Laverton
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:23
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brushmarx
Hi
I am pre-planning a
Brisbane to
Perth trip and are looking seriously to taking the
Outback Way shortcut.
Unfortunately, due to work commitments, the
Perth trip needs to be around Christmas, in which the little research done so far indicates mean temperatures in the low to mid 40's.
A petrol auto with transmission cooler,a camper trailer, and two adults with average loading is the expected rig, carrying a sat phone,
UHF radio, hand winch, Maxtrax and standard straps etc.
I assume others have driven this or similar
routes in relatively harsh conditions, and there are a few questions I am seeking answers for are:
Although the mean temperature is low to mid 40's, do higher temperatures hang around for long periods of time, or hit for a day or so, then go back to normal?
Another option is to go through
Broken Hill, down and turn right across the Nullarbor, but is this likely to be much cooler than inland? I have done this way twice already by car and are looking for a new experience.
How often are the roads graded during this hotter and not recommended tourist season?
Are fuel supplies reliable in the "off season"?
Any other questions I should be asking?
I eagerly await your help, or suggestions (other than buy a Toyota).
Cheers
Ian
Reply By: getmecoffee - Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:18
Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:18
Brushmarx,
I have travelled
Great Central Road twice and its a experience you won't forget.
I see three possible issues with your plans.
I have travelled only in winter and someone else will have to help you with summertime info regarding temperatures.
If you are taking it for a shortcut,
well it just won't turn out that way. Timewise you would be advised to take the blacktop diversion. If the thought of that bores you as much as me than go for it.
Great Central Road is 1200kms of dust, corrugations and rocks. I can't envisage you using either your winch or your straps. The road is pretty simple and the locals do it in Falcons, I even passed what looked like a little Mazda! These things are
well possible, I just wouldn't like to be the owner of those vehicles after being subjected to the punishment!
Fuel. Not sure what the availability of petrol is mate. Perhaps that OPEL stuff will be available. Wouldn't see any problems with seasonal availability as quite a
well travelled road, with a local community to supply year round.
I passed the Grader coming from both ends in late July.
I also smashed a rear window with rock/camper/trailer interaction. No I didnt have cardboard over rear window. I did when I got the 900 dollar replacement in Alice. You can't see out the back anyway from the dust so just cover it mate.
Despite my concerns over temperatures and strain on your vehicle, If you have no problems with overheating heading into Ayers Rock then you shouldn't be under much more strain on GCR. UHF wont be much help. Never had Sat phone so unsure of reliability.
Make sure you spend the night at Docker
River campsite. Others have rubbished it on this
forum and it is falling into disrepair, but it is a nice spot just the same. every where else you are basically in a compound with the wire facing out... that reminds me, you'll need access permits from two aboriginal corporations. Have a look at the trek notes on this site. Invaluable reading.
Basically you are a long way from home out there mate and this can be stressfull if you are travelling alone. But thats what adventure is I guess..
Cheers.
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Reply By: Rockape - Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:28
Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:28
Ian,
the temps can be harsh and you would have to allow for that, sleeping can present a problem with the heat if you are not used to the conditions.
You would have to keep an eye on the weather, storms will be about around this time and the wet could start. You can get stuck and not be able to move for a week. You could have a few dramas getting off the road for trucks if it is wet.
Roads will not have had any maintenance done to them, this will start after the wet. Corrigations will be servere.
You can do it, just have a think wether you will enjoy yourselves.
Have a good one
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Reply By: D200Dug- Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 17:16
Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 17:16
I would not recommend that route at that time unless absolutely necessary.
Extreme heat extreme conditions would make for an unpleasant and possibly dangerous drive.
I have done the road in winter and would love to do it again, but not at Christmas.
Temps in the high 40s are the norm road temps of 50+ are not unusual, burst tyres from heat not unusual. heat exhaustion from minor maintenance not unusual.
My son was a cop at
laverton and patrolled that road year round, he tells some great stories about how people come unstuck out there.
Why would you want to do this trip at that time of year ?
It will not be a pleasant trip by any route.
If you can FLY to
Perth, it may be cheaper in the long run anyway.
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Reply By: get outmore - Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 17:38
Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 17:38
Doubt you would have an issue. The road is usually corragated untl the WA border but after that should be straightforward. heat wise your vehicle should be fine if maintained as you will be pushing it alot less than you would on the bitumen.
bank on cruising at 80kph as while many sections are as good as bitumen some rougher or sandy stretches can wake you up if youve let the speed get up.
Fuel should be available as they are there to service the locals.
it would be a bit early in the year for storms which are more of a jan-march thing.
its about a day and a 1/2 -2 day drive
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 18:59
Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 18:59
Mate,
I work out there ( last 20yrs) and trust me storms are Nov/Dec then the wet.
Roads are going to be cut to bits by then, no shire will repair them till winter. 80kph is out of the question at that time of the year.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 22:38
Wednesday, Jul 29, 2009 at 22:38
yep and a quick scan of lat DEC on the B.O.M site coinfirms thre were several events of heavy rainfall
my mistake I assumed the storms would be as an effect of cyclones drifting inland which would be a month or 2 later
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Jul 30, 2009 at 00:38
Thursday, Jul 30, 2009 at 00:38
Ian
We have traveled it it's a good trip but not late in the year,, Sorry
But have a look at this site
Outback Hwy make sure you call in at on of there sites they are OK
Richard
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Reply By: brushmarx - Thursday, Jul 30, 2009 at 08:47
Thursday, Jul 30, 2009 at 08:47
Thanks for your responses.
Ideally, we would take the trip in cooler conditions, but working in the building industry means chrissie is the main downtime.
I used my stored holidays last Nov and Dec with 7 weeks in intensive care, so am back to standard holidays.
We were planning a 10 to 12 day crossing, so taking it relatively easy on speed is OK, and we can hide in the shade in the worst time of the day if necessary.
We would be closely monitoring the weather before
Alice Springs before making a firm decision, and are willing to go via the Nullarbor again if things look nasty.
Flying would probably be cheaper, but nowhere near as much fun, and time does not need to be of the essence.
I guess it's a case of "suck it and see", but I have no real wish to die again so soon.
Once again, thanks
Ian
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Reply By: greenextreme - Friday, Jul 31, 2009 at 19:25
Friday, Jul 31, 2009 at 19:25
Hi Ian,
Check the weather forecast in Alice before proceeding and also try phoning
Giles weather station [08 8956 7358] and ask of pending rain, storms, temp etc in their immediate area. Then decide to go GCR or Stuart Hwy/Nullarbor.
Fuel or road surface conditions won't be the issue, instead rain and flooding is the only and main issue at that time of year [but gets worse in Jan-Mar]. Sat phone will work fine, UHF won't. Best to keep your tyres at highway pressure to avoid punctures. There's plenty to see, do and enjoy..so if the weather is OK...enjoy it. Also suggest you monitor www.outbackway.org.au as they sometimes alert travellers to road conditions and while at that website you can download plenty of info....you might even want to buy the
Outback Way Atlas and Guidebook as it'll help you plan stops,
camping, fuel, etc...cheers, greenextreme
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Reply By: ped - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 20:19
Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 20:19
Hi Ian
i have the same problem in building industry but mrs wants to go to
winton this year so be it.
i am guessing you are from tropics with comment about cyclones and hiding under trees in shade, i worked in Kuwait after gulf war one night at 2am the air con packed it in so wound windows down to cool things down like you would on hot sticky evening up here but it was cooler with window up driving along very different kind of feeling, similar kind of heat to where you want to go.
Ped
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