Camera Batteries
Submitted: Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 19:55
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Member - Uncle (NSW)
I know a lot of people on here use cameras quite frequently,and I've been meaning to post this for a while but keep forgetting,(senior moments). But would be interesting to see what life others have got from different branded batteries over the years.
We purchased these ones in particular, and have still got the same set 7 years later! They have lost a lot of their grunt, so now I just use them in the hand held UHF's, but have previously been in our digital camera.
Originally purchased from Hardly Normal's. Another brand we have found good also are Fuji batteries.
cheers Uncle.
http://www.gpbattery.com/powerbank.html
Reply By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 20:06
Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 20:06
I have been using Jaycars Powertech NIMH 2400Mah's for 5 years and only recently noticed they have pegged back a bit,dont last as long as they used to but for $14 for 4 AA's who's complaining!! i also hane 4 Eveready 2500's as
well but i think they are crap in comparison to the Powertech's- my 2c's worth.
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Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 20:28
Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 20:28
I'll second that. Jaycar 2400 powertech are good.
Their eclipse non-rechargeables are pretty good too.
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 21:11
Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 21:11
I've tried lots of rechargeables over the years.
I now consider anything other than Sanyo Eneloops to be a waste of money.
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Follow Up By: dbish - Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 22:42
Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 22:42
Yes I use Sanyo Eneloops in camera @ Garmin Etrx GPS last twice as long as Alkaline In GPS @ dont go flat when siting around. Been using them for nearly 12 months.
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Reply By: D200Dug- Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 21:26
Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 21:26
Rule of thumb from using a lot of batteries and working in a camera
shop, the more you use rechargeable batteries and the more recharge cycles you run through them the longer they last and the more power they hold.
A new Li battery in my D70 would take about 300 shots, after a years use it would have no problem taking 700 to 800 shots.
Just think, camera batteries are the same as a car's battery, if you drive your car everyday you should have no major battery problems for a long time. If you leave the car in the garage and only drive it once every 6 months the battery will stuff out pretty quickly.
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Follow Up By: D200Dug- Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 21:35
Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 21:35
PS I use el Cheapo AA Inca NiMH batteries in my flash units. They are charged and recharged at least once a week. The power up
well after a while and work really really
well the more you charge and work them the better they are.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 22:41
Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 22:41
LeadAcid, NiMH and LiIon have totally different requiremnets to ensrure long life.
LeadAcid batteries should be kept close to 100% charge
NiMH or NiCd batteries have to be discharged to 1.0 volt per cell at least once every 3 months. They can be stored at any level of charge.
LiIon batteries should be stored at 40% capacity.
All batteries will last longer if stored in the fridge in a plastic bag to prevent condensation - not the freezer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 06:31
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 06:31
Hi Mike, I agree with your comments about discharging NiCd batteries but can you please tell me where you get the same story about NiMH batteries from ?
Thanks, KK
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 07:42
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 07:42
Batteries in a Portable World and my personal experience using an automatic discharger/recharger.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 07:50
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 07:50
Some quotes from Buchmann's website -
"The memory phenomenon can be explained in layman’s terms as expressed by Duracell: “The voltage drop occurs because only a portion of the active materials in the cells is discharged and recharged during shallow or partial discharging. The active materials that have not been cycled change in physical characteristics and increase in resistance. Subsequent full discharge/charge cycling will restore the active materials to their original state.”"
"When NiMH was first introduced there was much publicity about its memory-free status. Today, it is known that this chemistry also suffers from memory but to a lesser extent than the NiCd. The positive nickel plate, a metal that is shared by both chemistries, is responsible for the crystalline formation."
"In addition to the crystal-forming activity on the positive plate, the NiCd also develops crystals on the negative cadmium plate. Because both plates are affected by crystalline formation, the NiCd requires more frequent discharge cycles than the NiMH. This is a non-scientific explanation of why the NiCd is more prone to memory than the NiMH."
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:37
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:37
Thanks Mike, very interesting.
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 23:45
Sunday, Aug 02, 2009 at 23:45
I've been using
Energizer AA & AAA Rechargables for a number of years, they recharge from the Inverter when away or 240v at home
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Reply By: Wok - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 05:12
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 05:12
I have standardised on Sanyo Eneloops for AA/AAA, Accupower Evolution in C/D size. These are LSD type. For my torches I use LiLon or LiMn type [unfortunately these may get expensive when Australia Post implements the new regulations on air-freight :(]
The oldest battery is about 3yrs....so far none have failed. have had poor experience with Powertech NiMh C which never came close to its rated 4500mAH :(.
eng
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Follow Up By: Volvo driver - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:08
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:08
it's actually a International Civil Aviation Organisation requirement...lithium batteries cannot be carried by air as they're now considered dangerous goods..not much Oz Post can do about that..good news is they can still be carried by road,
airlines decide what goes on THEIR planes..
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Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:23
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:23
The older plain coloured powertech were ...errr crap.
The new branded ones are much better.
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:24
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:24
Depends on their size. Over 160Wh are banned. Smaller ones are OK as carry-on. Not sure about Air Freight regs though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:03
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:03
I've given up on Jaycar's Powertech NiCads - the capacity is OK but they just don't last, even using a very high quality charger.
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:41
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:41
I've basically given up on rechargeables and switched to using Lithium batteries. Last much longer than rechargeables and I find they hold their charge better. My camera can sit on the shelf for weeks unused and then you want it NOW. Always found the rechargeables were flat when I wanted them ;-(
One set of lithiums will do me for months. Obviously I need to carry a spare set when travelling though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:54
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:54
You should try Eneloops NiMH - they'll hold their charge for a year.
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Follow Up By: Rod E B - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:45
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:45
have no heard of eneloops
where can I buy them
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:06
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:06
Dick smith sells Sanyo Eneloops in AA and AAA size.
Befoore this new technology NiCd/NiMH batteries would lose 30% of their charge per month, even when new.
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Follow Up By: Rolly - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 13:57
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 13:57
Varta "ready 2 use" are similar to the Sanyo Eneloops in their characteristics.
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Reply By: SPRINT-GTO - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:59
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:59
Just purchased a spare battery for my Panasonic DMC-TZ3 digital
camera and price from
Camera House $49.95. Exactly same battery from Battery World $39.95.!!!
Naturally bought the cheaper one ,So it pays to
shop around.
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Reply By: Member - Bytemrk(VIC) - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 14:50
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 14:50
I have been using Powerex batteries and been very happy with the performance.
I think rechargable batteries are one of those area's where you get what you pay for...
There is no doubt, not only the quality of the battery but also the way you charge them makes a huge difference..
I got
mine here:
Servaas
I should say I am in no way associated with this company... just a very happy customer.
Possibly not the cheapest out there... but great products, very helpful and exceptional backup service.
Cheers, Mark
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Reply By: Family Friendly Oz Camping - Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 15:52
Monday, Aug 03, 2009 at 15:52
I have found rechargables AA's work ok but need recharging very often, Duracells and Energizers are good, I am going to try Lithium AAs and see how they go, they are recommended them for cameras.
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