Wireless Prepaid Internet

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Hi All
I am looking to buy wireless prepaid internet (the USB stickdrive ones) for our laptop for when we travel up north in a couple of weeks. Just wondering if anyone has any reccomendations with regards to which is the best for coverage, value for money etc. We will be heading from Adelaide to Brisbane both inland and along the coast.
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Tara
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:07

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:07
Unfortunately, Telstra NextG is the one with the widest coverage; it also works fine. Others have comparitively limited coverage, and mostly limited to the major towns and cities. And NO, the other brands will not 'roam'on NextG.
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Follow Up By: Fiona & Paul - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:08

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:08
I agree with Fred B and Telstra is the only way to go. We have just done 4 weeks on the road from Bathurst to Peak Hill, Bourke, then to Qld andCunnamulla, Yowah, Quilpie, Thargomindah, Tibooburra, Broken Hill and at a rest stop 80km east of Wilcannia where mobile coverage was also available.

Internet access was very slow in one or two places and the caravan park at Thargomindah (Big 4 that allows pets) was in the process of setting up WiFi but the electrician had been unable to get it finalised. At Thargo I was unable to get all my footy tips in because of the combination of internet speed and graphic content of the website (2GB).

I was managing several client websites, my home email address and one from the laptop, strangely enough I stopped getting email for the laptop and continued to get email from my home server. We are still trying to work that one out but is probably something to do with they way we have set up our specific security network.

Telstra can drop the net onto a bottletop (relative) if they want to, at the rest area out of Wilcannia once I got 80-100 metres awayf from the main area the reception started dropping off.

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Reply By: Member - Matt & Caz H (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:21

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:21
Hi

I agree with Fred B, we have been on the road for 9mths now and use the Telstra nextG stick - there are different plans you can choose to save $$ ect.

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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:22

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:22
Tara,
I've had the same thought previousl, but returned it after a few days, don't remember the *exact* reason, so won't suggest one here.

My laptop picks up 'free' (unlocked) internet connections and uses them :)
You have to be in an area where you can get *reception* anyway, and the places I stay in the far North West are well off the beaten track with no phone or tv reception anyway.

Maybe settle on MukDonalds, HJ's etc for available legal 'Hotspots' ??

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: Nargun51 - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 15:09

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 15:09
I know it is the responsibility of the owner of the network to ensure that their network is locked. By the same token, it is the responsibility of the user to ensure that they are not using access they haven't paid for.

All the smiley faces don't help...it's still theft
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 18:46

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 18:46
Yes, I agree with what your saying - only to a degree

when you consider their network is not locked because they are on a gaming
plan that is open, endless and seamless it costs them NOTHING in $$$

I have a friend with a 16yo geek who lives on a lounge, just playing 'games' with everyone, he openly admits he could not care about others using his connection because some of those he plays with are using it anyway to attempt to beat him at his home, it costs him nothing extra because of the plan he is on.

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Reply By: DIO - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:27

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:27
Whatever you purchase remember that you will only get coverage in area consistent with where 98% of the population reside NOT 98% of the (area) of the country. A bug difference.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:31

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:31
Yes, tis a big difference too :)
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:33

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:33
Have a look at Westnet Mobile, it has coverage in most major cities and towns but not the far outback as yet , come December the coverage will be better for both Westnet and Optus.

WESTNET

I'm just waiting to give Telstra the flick,

Coverage area's in dark Orange
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:02

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:02
Doesn't Westnet use the Optus Network??

The Optus Mobile network is just rubbish compared to Next G.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:28

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:28
John
If you don't know what system Westnet uses and Optus and / or if you haven't used Optus then how do you know it's rubbish, It all depends on where you are, and what system you log into, and the plan/speed ,
And yes I do believe Westnet uses the Optus system , that would explain the Westnet use of Optus coverage maps.
Optus has download speeds up to 3.6Mbps
Bigpond Mobile has download speeds 550kbps to 8Mbps1

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:43

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:43
Doug I do have experience with Optus through several business interests that I am involved with (Past & Present) and thats how I know its rubbish.

I seem to remember from some research awhile ago that Westnet was reselling Optus bandwidth but was just looking for a confirmation of my memory, hence the ??

Simply speaking in my view the claimed speeds of the Optus Wireless BB network are pie in the sky, here in the Melb Metro area the system does not come anywhere near the claimed speeds and I would seriously doubt that their country coverage would be any better.
I also add that in my view their voice coverage is highly unreliable.

I just returned from 2 months travel around the country and used the the Next G broadband USB dongle and was most impressed with the service coverage and speed of the Telstra wireless system.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:47

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:47
John
I agree , Bigpond is very good. I'm using it but the price is high when one is on a pension, therefore I don't mid sacrificing a bit of speed for a lower price , But I think as time goes by the other services will get better,

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Follow Up By: PradOz - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 16:14

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 16:14
Maybe OT (?) for what its worth, standing up on top of Ayres Rock the only mobile coverage (phone not internet) when we were there was with Optus. No one with Telstra or Vodaphone, 3 etc etc had any coverage up there. I thought of all places, if there was only one network going to work there it was going to be Telstra not Optus.

I was a little slow at the time (probably worn out from the "walk" up), should have rented my mobile out for use up there by the ones that wanted to phone someone from top of the 'Rock'. Could have set up my own phone box :))
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Follow Up By: Member - Sigmund (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 16:58

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 16:58
Yes, Westnet resells Optus, and Optus claim to be building 2 towers a day or somesuch. Last time I looked the price diffs were marginal with NextG.

3 claim now to have mobiles that will roam with NextG but one user report posted here was that reception was cr*p.
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Reply By: Member - Cozzie Toodyay (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:55

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:55
Telstra NextG only way to go, I tried the others with limited access.

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Reply By: robertbruce - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:02

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:02
the fastest wireless accs ive had between adelaide and brisban it at Barmera SA, 60ms pings
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Reply By: Waynepd (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:10

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:10
Unfortunately, Telstra have the best coverage and infrastructure in Australia oh and MacDonalds too.....

I would love to stop spending money at both of these establishments but they are convenient and widespread....
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Reply By: Ray - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:23

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:23
Hi I am with Iinet. Can I use Telstra's next G mobile plan and still keep my server (Iinet)?
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:30

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:30
Yes!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:41

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:41
iinet will sell you an Email address for $25 a year.
I had them at home and when i cancelled to go on the road it was offered to me.

Had a TELSTRA (NOT BIGPOND) USb dongle and got my money back as it was fairly useless out of large cities. I have two laptops and could not get consistent connections anywhere except in larger places on the east coast and in Alice Up the middle.

I had it replaced twice under warranty by the manufacturers and still no different.
I now use an old Bigpond home modem (the blue one with two aerials on it)
It has been unlocked and I just use my Telstra sim in it
Cost $85 on Ebay and whilst slow and needs 240 volts it connects in fringe areas no prob.
Can be made to run on a stepown off 12 volt to 6volt but I havent bothered.

When I got the refund on my dongle I asked if the new 21 sereies had better reception strength and was told probably not although it can take an external aerial I believe, which should help.

Telstra really is the only way to get wireless internet in all the places it is available.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:46

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:46
John, do you have more info?

I cancelled my Next G modem account after the last trip, not using it enough.

I have iinet for my ADSL2+ at home.

I also have bought my father a 3G USB modem from 'Three' for use in Brisbane from his retirement home, since he can't get ADSL with a paired line.
Gets 200kb/sec since it is working on 3G, as good as Next G and half the cost, but 3G is only good for about 50k out of Brisbane and other capital cities. Then it drops to GSM.

Next G has the larger coverage, but is a higher price, and you have to deal with Bigpond/Telstra.

So if I could get Next G through iinet, it would be great.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 13:29

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 13:29
I interpreted this follow up by Ray as "keeping my access to any other server/email account such as home or business??"

And answered yes with that thought in mind with the ability to access his current Inet email accounts via Telstra/Bigpond ISP.
(If this is not what was being asked then I apologise for assuming incorrectly)

I used a Next G Pre Paid USB Dongle and it worked very well indeed.
I accessed my personal and business email accounts which are held on private servers other than Telstra/Bigpond without any problems.

The other vehicle I was travelling with also had the same Next G USB dongle and they accessed their email accounts which happened to be with Optus.

John
Three roams on the Telstra 3G Network (Not the Next G network, different radio frequencies to 3G) when not within range of Three's own network.
I use Three for my business mobiles as they have better plans/rates and the service for the majority of my business use is very good here in Victoria.

I also carried a cheap ($99-) pre paid Next G phone on my recent trip for those times I had no Three coverage and found the Next G service to be excellent in sometimes unexpectedly small towns and remote areas, Old Halls Creek was one such place that springs to mind.

The Three wireless seems to work very well most of the time, sometimes gets a bit slow due to the high number of users that are on line sometimes.
And yes their pricing is very good compared to Telstra/Bigpond so long as you don't allow the dongle to roam onto the Telstra network when not withing a Three network as the price per MB rises.

Next G is only available through Telstra/Bigpond at the present although I did recently hear that Three was nearing agreement for future access to the Next G network, that may now change with the merger of Three and Vodaphone??
Will have to wait and see I guess.

Hope this helps.

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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 17:18

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 17:18
Thanks John,

Have heard but can not verify that Optus may be going to Next G like frequencies next year.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 00:06

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 00:06
Optus already has an equivilent to Next G

Telstras Next G is 850mhz

Optus is 900MHZ.






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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:51

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:51
If it's only for a short trip, why bother with a USB stick? Get yourself a pre-paid Telstra NextG phone with bluetooth, buy a data pack for the phone and use it as a modem to access the internet. After your trip you have a phone you can still use rather than a USB stick you'll just chuck in the drawer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Sigmund (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 17:00

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 17:00
Yeah, that's what I've done.

Gone for the Long Life call plan as well for remote emergency use and a 30 buck recharge is good for 6 months. Phone was $69. Cheap.
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Follow Up By: Member - Sigmund (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 17:01

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 17:01
Oh, and got an external antenna for the phone.
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Reply By: BenDiD - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 13:41

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 13:41
Hi Tars,

I have a Virgin pre-paid (Optus 3G network) and it works at 3G speeds along most of the coast and major inland routes. If you are touring / travelling it is fine. Yes, I don't think it works in Willcania, or other remote places, but I am not sure what your travel plans are.

Something to note: Next G DOES NOT = 3G. Telstra only offer 3G speeds around the major capitals. Outside capitals their network slows massively to 2&1/2 G - which is almost dial up speed. The Optus / Virgin network is true 3G speeds.

In truly remote places there is no coverage from any carrier. Sure Optus doesn't cover Willcania, but if you can wait 2 hours till you hit Broken Hill or Cobar you get free access at Maccas (along with free coffee refills!).

Good Luck
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Reply By: Member - Alan John C (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 14:32

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 14:32
Tara,
I use Next G but I made sure that the Modem from Telstra was able to accept external antenna this enabled us to trebble our coverage and it didn't let us down in our trip through WA and SA regards Alan.

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Reply By: Rod W - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 15:36

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 15:36
For home use only I've been looking at 3 with 12gb's for 12mths. For me it seems to be the most convenient ie not having to recharge every month.
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Reply By: kingswoodwagon - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 22:41

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 22:41
Tars,

Beware - the Bigpond USB modem can only be activated once. That is if you terminate your contract - then want to re-join Bigpond. Your up for a new USB wireless modem.

I terminated my Bigpond plan a few months after the 2 year contract was up. I've recently tried to re-join Bigpond using the same hardware only to be told its no good. These things retail for around $300

Now I use my NextG Telstra phone as a modem (no plan) and change the data pack according to my estimated usage.


For Sale - 1 Bigpond Modem USB Stick
Price : 6 Pack Emu export


Good luck
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 00:10

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 00:10
What you could have done is left it on a plan sold it and transferred the plan to the new user.
I think thats the only way to do it cos as you say cancel it and they deactivate the IEMI number.




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Reply By: Tars - Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:24

Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:24
Cheers - thanks everyone for that advice - quite a few things to consider. I hadn't even thought of using a mobile phone to access the internet so will have to consider that one.
Thanks again
Cheers
Tars
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