Sat phone rentals

Been reading up on sat phones and sat phone rentals - anyone got any recommendations of a good company to deal with?

viz
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Reply By: Member - Myles F (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:02

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:02
G’day Viz,
Not sure where you are…. I’m at Victoria Point just southeast of Brisbane and I have just returned from four weeks doing the Simpson. I used this company http://www.sattv.com.au/ The phone arrived by express post and had a return express post envelope supplied so was easy receive and return. I got a couple of prices and their rates were pretty good….. good to deal with.
Myles.
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:05

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:05
I'm sure most dealers are reptutable but if you do hire, make sure you get a full explanation and demo of the phone before leaving the store and ensure that the phone is in both serviceable condition and that they have reception on the Satellite. Do not hire any phone that uses the Globalstar (Pivotel now) system as you may as well be carrying a house brick with you for all the good it will do.

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Follow Up By: Travelin OZ - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:12

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:12
I had a Globalstar Qualcom phone and it was useless, however I changed it for the Iridium phone with the now Pivotel, I use it 2-3 times a week and it works perfect.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:34

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:34
Yes the Iridum through pivotel is fine. How much did they charge you to swap over to the new handset and provider?
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Follow Up By: Travelin OZ - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:45

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:45
It took about 2 weeks of negotiation, in the end I received the new phone for $0, I of course had to send the other one back.
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Reply By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:03

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:03
Just a thought.

If you need the phone for an emergency it would be more economical to buy your own EPIRB. Some are less than $500 (GME MT410 PLB ) and if you were to make two trips of 4 weeks then it is cheaper than hiring a phone.

Whereas hiring a phone could cost around $360 for just the one trip. ($120 first week and $80 / week after that).

I would prefer the EPIRB. Personally it's great to get away from the phone for a while.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Krakka - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:06

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:06
Epirb is not much good wiyh your arm or leg half chopped off, or you suspect one of your group is having a heart attack. ie not much help in a medical emergency 1

Krakka
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Follow Up By: Travelin OZ - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:17

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:17
Yeah Krakka you beat me to it.

Communications are a absolute must in case of an emergency, EG: how many vehicles, how many injured, or perhaps it is not so much a emergency but help is required, an EPIRB can help find you but it can't help tell the people finding you what is needed.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:39

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:39
Sorry I have ham radio on board covering HF to our own UHF and VHF satellite services. Some EPIRBS do include quite accurate GPS information to help locate you very accurately.

Phil (not Krakka)
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Reply By: dazza62 - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:32

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:32
I have always believed good service is worth telling about.

On our recent trip to the Outback we hired a Sat Phone from Lara Electronics and inserted my Telstra Next G International Roaming Sim Card. Had no issues with signal etc.

We compared prices and found them more than competitive and the service was fantastic. Delivered to my Office in Geelong and then picked it up on our return.

Business is operated by Peter Jones and he can be contacted on (03) 5282 2751. This Company was recommended to me by others and I would gladly recommend him to others.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:08

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:08
Could you give me an idea of call costs please for sat phones? To and from if there is a difference.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 19:11

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 19:11
Using a Telstra sim card its roughly $3 a minute both IN AND OUT

If you are on a Telstra plan you only pay for OUTWARD calls.

I have a 9505A and use my sim card if and when I ever need it.

Only in an emergency will it be used.


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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 19:14

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 19:14
SMS are about 75c but can only be sent from the 9505 or 9505A

NOT from a 9500 which I think can receive them but not send.


Mine was $950 on Ebay with all the fruit.






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Follow Up By: viz - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 19:37

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 19:37
Thanks guys - lots of info.

One of the concerns that I have is that I would only be using the phone in case of an emergency, having no need to phone otherwise (and why would I - the reason I want to go to the desert is get away from the 'orrible things). And it is expensive, whichever way you look at it. The rental prices are seriously dear for three weeks away...

I have an EPIRB (GME 406 GPS thingy), and in assessing the risks: for a 4-5 day trip with a well prepared vehicle and an experienced 4WDriver at the helm, telling people where we are going (e.g. the Police) and driving on well travelled roads and tracks I think it would be a little over the top to rent a phone, let alone buy one.

I am thinking of getting SPOT tracker instead - at least you have something in your hand after spending the $$$, and while I am not 100% confident in its abilities, for non-life threatening events it would be a good alternative to the EPIRB, and a backup.

viz
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Follow Up By: dazza62 - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 20:19

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 20:19
Interesting information and comments that all have some merit.

On our trip we were travelling alone in a well maintained vehicle. Whilst we had the knowledge and experience to get out of most situations it is always reassuring to have some form of back up just in case it all went pear shaped.

We were equipped with UHF, Sat Phone and EPIRB. as mentioned the Sat Phone was hired. Would pay to check the rates for yourself as you would be surprised how cheap it was for the time we were away.

Like a previous comment, we went Outback to get away from the phone, so it was purely for an emergency and to check text messages. (The kids and pets were after all home alone!!!)

As we had been off the beaten track we reported in on two occasions and the costs were as follows:- 5 and a half minute call cost $17-03 and a 4 minute call cost $12-42. Keep in mind that this was from my own sim card inserted in the phone on the Telstra Next G network. We did not get charged to receive text messages.

I am told that should you choose to receive a call you will also pay for it at a similar rate, however that was not the purpose for us carrying the phone so no calls were ever going to be received.

It would be unwise to rely on an EPIRB as your only emergency source as an EPIRB should only be activated when someone is in "grave or imminent danger". I don't believe that a broken down car would be considered "grave and imminent danger" whereas a Sat Phone could be used to obtain help before that situation arose.

In our case we considered the cost was a very small price to pay to ensure our safety in an emergency and maintain our independance in a remote part of Australia.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 21:16

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 21:16
If you are on a Telstra SATELLITE Plan, you only pay for outgoing calls. If you are on a Mobilenet Plan, you pay for Incoming and Outgoing Satellite calls.

Using a Mobilenet SIMcard, outgoing satellite SMS costs $1.50, incoming are free to the receiver.
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Reply By: Member - Angus E (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 18:54

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 18:54
I have used Landwide Communications a couple of times and found the service to be excellent and they are very helpful when you call them up. They post/courier the phone to you.

Most of the information and call costs etc is on their web page, http://www.landwide.com.au/

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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 20:28

Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 20:28
Sat fones keep their value.
I expect to get my money back on mine so if you bought one you would

probably get the use of it for next to nothing and sell it again when you finish the trip.
Have a look on Ebay and see whats going but only from an AUSSIE SELLER
also try for a low usage low age one as batteries are expensiveMine is 2 years old and has a talk time of about 70 mins.
Cost $950 inc postage.

Only buy a Motorola 9505 or 9505A and only on IRIDIUM which they are.

Also dont get one already on a plan.

Cheers


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Follow Up By: Krakka - Thursday, Aug 06, 2009 at 06:12

Thursday, Aug 06, 2009 at 06:12
Hi Graham, regarding using a telstra mobile sim in the sat phone, at $3 a minute were you still in 3G coverage area? Last time I used mine on Googs Track with no 3G coverage it cost me $5.70 for 42 seconds. I have an Iridium sim which costs much less to use but I wanted to try my 3G sim card out.

Regards

Krakka
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:24

Thursday, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:24
All carriers only provide 3G coverage in builtup areas ???
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:42

Thursday, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:42
It wouldnt matter where you are the charges are the same.

The sim card is only for charging.

The SAT fone can ONLY CONNECT TO A SATELLITE It cannot ever connect to the cellphone network.

Some ericsson Globalstar phones could but were still not on a good system.

I must check my account for the cost cos I made some calls north of Port Hedlad and they cut out due to an exchange fault .
Havent been charged up till last bill.

Mike DID put up the prices in a previous thread quite a while ago.






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Reply By: Member - redust..... (SEQ) - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:48

Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:48
Hi viz, you can hire a sat phone from aussiedingo at 041 9990888 & he posts it to you anywhere, its $50 a week plus calls, good value & security! red
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