Oodnadatta Track
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Is it possible to tow a 22' road van from
Leigh Creek via
Marree ,
William Creek to
Coober pedy?
Land Cruiser t/d
September 2010
Wife & 3 kids
Cheers Brian
Reply By: Member -Signman - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 16:18
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 16:18
Yup...
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Reply By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 16:21
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 16:21
Brian
Possible? Yes - maybe - depending on the conditions at the time. A lot of the locals out there use 2 wheel drive vehicles. But that doesn't mean it is always suitable for towing an on-road van. I have been on it when we have battled to average 20kph because of washaways, corrugations or various other problems that can arise out there. I have also been on it when you could describe it as a highway. On average I would say you could probably get through as long as you take your time and are very careful about tyre pressures and observing the road directly in front of your
wheels. Would I recommend it? Definitely not!!! Your problem is this - Your trip is too far away to be making that decision now. In your case with such a big van I would suggest you make the inquiry when you get to
Port Augusta about the road conditions and make the decision then. Things can change overnight in that area and yours is a very big rig to be asking the guy from the
Pink Roadhouse to come and rescue you. And when you make your inquiry be sure to ask about both roads - The
Oodnadatta Track AND the
William Creek to
Coober Pedy Road. They can very often be in very different conditions.
teege
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Follow Up By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 17:52
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 17:52
Brian
I should have mentioned - one of the major problems with a long road van is clearance, approach, departure and rampover angles. If you strike any decent washaways you can be in real strife trying to drag the van up and over the edge on its belly.
teege
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Reply By: Tenpounder (SA) - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 16:23
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 16:23
Anything's possible. Especially if it's someone else's van.
Seriously, the road condition varies like most bush roads. It IS a road, but corrugations and gibber are normal, and lots of people air down to 25 PSI and slow down to 70 without a van. I would not even consider it with a road van, and, if you do, protect the back of your LC from damage from stones bouncing off the van. Having said that, at times and in
places the road is smooth,
well graded. If you cut back to
Coober Pedy from
Oodnadatta you'll avoid the stretch to the North of
Oodnadatta, which can be a bit iffy. I don't recommend you doing
the Painted Desert loop with a 22ft van on the back, even tho it is a fantastic place.
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Reply By: Member - Sigmund (VIC) - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 17:15
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 17:15
Elsewhere on this website is a section on road conditions that is updated regularly. I've been checking it often as research for covering that same route later in the year.
IIRC the Ood from
Marree to William Ck aint the best after rain and has often been posted then as 4WD only.
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Reply By: Member - A J- Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 17:30
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 17:30
Brian - was on this road recently with off road camper - From
Leigh Creek to Maree no problems at all -
Marree to
William Creek you would have to reduce your speed somewhat especially on the
William Creek end.
Now from
William Creek to
Coober Pedy I would not have a clue as I did not travel that road - there was a lot of vans in
William Creek when we were there. Spoke to a guy who had just brought an off road van from
Coober Pedy with a troop carrier and he advised that the single axle van travelled
well.
A J
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Follow Up By:- Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 21:34
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 21:34
AJ
Were all the vans in williams
creek off roaders
Brian
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Follow Up By: A J - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 21:55
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 21:55
Brian - did not have a detailed look at all the vans - from the street you could see a number in the
camping ground -only really looked at the ones in the street. They are working on the road between
Farina and Maree and now have a sealed section then a gravel section which may last 8 to 10 kms.
We did see some on road vans doing the trip but did not take any notice of what brand they were.
A J
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Reply By: dazza62 - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 17:34
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 17:34
William Creek to
Coober Pedy might be difficult for a road van. Certainly check conditions before hand and take your time.
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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:00
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:00
The main issues a road going van could have are tyre, stone & corrugation damage. Most simply aren't built strong enough, have decent tyres or suitable under body protection for such a stoney road. (Particually after
William Creek)
Cheers Craig.............
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Reply By: KennyBWilson - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:23
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:23
Make sure you tape up your back windows with card board on the car or they will get smashed
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Reply By: Member - DW (NSW) - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:32
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:32
Having just done
Marree to
Oodnadatta then to
Coober Pedy. It can change quite quickly so it is impossible to say what it would be like next year.
We have done it with an off road
Kimberley Karavan with no problem especially letting drive and Karavan tyres down to just under 30 psi and dropped speed to no more than 70km/hr on the best and as low as 10 km/hr on some bad corrugations in
the Painted Desert.
The
Oodnadatta coober Pedy road at present would be no problem but who would know in 12 months.
Cheers
DW
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Reply By:- Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 21:32
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 21:32
Thanks for the posts so far,sounds like none of the posters have done it
I will have to play it by ear until we get into the
flinders ranges, just didnt want to back track if i can help it.
Cheers Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 23:51
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 23:51
Sounds like you didnt get the advice you were looking for. I have travelled that road at least six times over the years and the conditions have been different every time. I wrote off my Jaycooutback camper on one of those trips so I think I have some experience there. Why ask the question if your mind is made up? Good luck.
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Reply By: Territory29 - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 22:11
Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 22:11
Did the
Oodnadatta track about a month ago,to
William creek was not to bad a bit rougher to
Marla, don't know about the road to
Coober pedy but there were a few people that said it was not to bad the time also the road was being graded , We stayed at
william Creek and there were quite a few road vans there, take your time, drop your tyre pressures drive to the conditions and enjoy your trip.
Regards
Greg
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Reply By: JimDi - Saturday, Aug 08, 2009 at 15:21
Saturday, Aug 08, 2009 at 15:21
Brian,
We did this trip in May 2008, towing a 20ft Kedron XCountry which has a heavy duty
suspension. Firstly the road is a formed road and in
places quite a good road. At May of 2008,have no idea what its like now.
We travelled okay but the corrugations and gibbers in
places were quite bad in other
places the road was okay for reasonable stretches. We did find the last 80klms towards
William Creek badly corrugated and after enjoying a smooth stretch and allowing our speed to build up I was "asleep at the wheel" when we hit a bad patch of corrugations at about a speed of 80klm . The noises from gibbers etc hitting under the van was not enjoyable and I feared the worst. Turned out we had cracked some welding underneath but went on to William
Creek and then
Coober Pedy. The road across to Cooberpedy at the time was quite good. On reaching
William Creek I spoke to travellers in a off road camper trailer re conditions ahead and they advised against. We then opted for the
Coober Pedy section which had at the time about 30klms of bad corrugations with the remainder reasonably okay.
I intend one of these days to do the trip again but would I do it in a road van? The answer would be no. From memory in the event of a complete breakdown I cannot think where help would come from.
Marree is quite a way off as is
Coober Pedy and the tenants at
William Creek hotel seemed to consist mainly of European back packers. In fairness though we only stayed the night
Jim
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Reply By: On Patrol & TONI - Saturday, Aug 08, 2009 at 20:30
Saturday, Aug 08, 2009 at 20:30
Brian
granted this is second hand info, but I have seen the damage.
A friend was up that way in June this year and the damage underneath his single axle on-road van was extensive, due to flying rocks etc, as
well the front of the van now looks a bit like the moons surface. He had a stone guard on the front of his van but obviously not an effective one. His speeds were slow due to corrugations, and him being a fusspot.
I guess it all comes down to how much you respect your van Brian, but it will get some degree of damage on such a road, as to how much will depend on you and the roads condition at the time of travel.
Cheers, Colin.
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