thinking of buying 100 series for towing please help!!!!!
Submitted: Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 20:09
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Member - barbara M (NSW)
Hi Everyone,
My hubby and I are thinking of buying a 100 series landcruiser for a tow vehicle for a caravan wanting a turbo. Was wondering if anyone can give us ome advice concerning what would be better manual or automatic and the relevant fuel economy. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Barb
Reply By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 20:33
Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 20:33
Barb,
A better and cheaper option is a 4.8 Petrol Patrol on LPG. You'll save at least $20,000 on the purchase price, it has more power and is cheaper to run. A superb tow vehicle and bullet proof.
Auto is a 5 speed tiptronic and better than manual for towing because it has the same number of ratios and is easier to use for slow speed reversing and manoeuvring (no slipping of the clutch).
Disclaimer: LPG may expensive and/or have limited availability in remote areas.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Reply By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:08
Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:08
Ahhh Jim, peddling the LPG line again, Hi Barb, i have a 100 series T/D Auto and have a 19' van, without all the unrelated rubbish that most post i average on the highway with cruise 14l/100. it pulls the van along effortlessly.Yes there are many other options(cheaper vehicle or LPG) but it all depends on what you want/expect from the vehicle. For touring you can not look past a diesel,they have the economy and power,LPG is cheap but not when you are towing,my 80 series was petrol/pg and it was useless for touring.towing i was lucky to get 300k's on 75ltrs gas, on fuel was not much better. you just have to weigh up all the pro's and con's(extra cost of 100 T/D initially) but it will always hold its value and be a reliable tow vehicle.as for manual or auto, i could not go past the 5 speed auto,smooth,refined and as for the economy-i dont think there is much in it.maybe someone with a manualT/D could give some figures.
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Follow Up By: Member - barbara M (NSW) - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:19
Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:19
Paul,
Thanks for the info,, There is a reason we want a landcruiser it is what we think fits the bill. We have a diesel 80 series at the moment with LPG the gas hasnt been that successful but that might be jus our car and there is the issue of availability. Just did a trip to Cameron's corner not much out there. Thanks for the info that was what I was after, just have to find one now. Thought we had but it had been sold 2 weeks ealier they just hadnt removed it from the net
Ta Barb
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:33
Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:33
Paul,
I do apologise for offering an opinion, but I thought forums were about sharing
information.
I don't hold shares in any LPG company or Nissan, not a cracker in it for me.
You're entitled to offer an opinion, and I respect your right to do so, you might have the decency to respect
mine.
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:53
Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:53
Easy Big Boy, it was all TIC, i do respect your opinion and i apologise if i offended, was not the intention.
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:59
Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 21:59
OK Paul,
Good banter, I like your style
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:30
Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:30
G/day Paul
Hmmmmmm!! ...14ltr /100, ...Believe that, but a bloody flat Hwy!,
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:36
Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:36
Yeh it was 14. something over 1800k's. i as you may
well tell very pleased with that! the cruiser around town was cheaper to run than the adventra wagon we have,it is now on LPG, there you go Jim- goes to show i am not one eyed! LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 15:56
Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 15:56
You must have a very light van or creative maths as I barely get that around town some days.
It is unachievable with my rig and I have a chip and a big exhaust to help things along also rarely go over 90kph.
Also never use cruise and never tow in O/D as the engine actually runs hotter than in 4th ( have an EGT gauge)
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 09:59
Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 09:59
We use a HDJ100R (05 GXL TD - manual - constant 4WD) to tow our new Trakmaster (tare 2300). All seems fine so far - only been vanning for 3 months. I was originally looking for an auto, but the manual came at auction with so much fruit that I couldn't resist. Seems a moot point in the end though - the manual provides very positive engine braking on descents, but with 4 x 12" electrics, the van can look after itself quite
well too. An auto would shine for take offs on slopes etc. in that the manual requires clutch slip in high range, to get going on slopes - not good. As a result, I often take off in low range and go back up to high range when mobile (on the fly). With a modest load in the car and the van at about 2700kg I guess, we get 16L/100km cruising at around 80 - 85kmh. Tail winds, head winds, higher speeds, hills etc will vary that of course, but with a light foot, TD's don't give disgusting variation in economy.
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Reply By: BubblesT - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:22
Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:22
Have LC 100 series turbo diesel manual packed to the rafters and putting a boatloader on top next week with 3.4 dingy. towing 28' spaceland van the LC towes it no problems tow in 4th gear. economy not sure and if I had to worry to much about that (I budget) I may as
well stay
home you need to buy fuel anyway
home or away. dont worry just enjoy or stay an extra week or two every so often in some wonderful
places don't rush smell the flowers.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 15:52
Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 15:52
Now for some realistic figures
2005 LC TD auto always tow in 4th
Av fuel consumption so far after 28,000 km is 5.7kpl towing a 2.8tonne van
Thatis 17.5l per 100km
That is an overall figure that covers towing, ambling around town, sightseeing at various speeds.
That I think is more applicable if you are going on a long trip as you do all those things.
To the guy with the loaded to the max and a Spaceland We were going to buy one but glad we didnt buy one that long as a lot of parks cant fit one that big in.
I also suggest when you get loaded with everything you weigh the rig and see how much over legal weight you are.
Its worth a thought in todays insurance world
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Follow Up By: BubblesT - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 18:45
Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 18:45
We don't go into van parks avoid them like the plague. always
free camp. fully independent setup. van not so loaded mainly hubbys
tools in back of LC. hard to part with.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 20:16
Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 20:16
True but legal loaded LC is 3260kg including towball weight and the roof load is 200kg including rack weight.
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