BFG Long Trail T/A Wear?
Submitted: Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:30
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My Rugby
Has anybody had experience towing with these tyres? I put a new set on my NP Pajero, which has independent rear
suspension, and set off on a round Australia trip towing a 2 tonne caravan, 200kg ball weight and a small load in the vehicle with all rear seats removed. Pressure when hot 38 PSI. After less than 10,000km of towing the rear tyres were all but stuffed with the left hand one showed a little more wear than the right one. The front ones after 13,000km show approx 1mm of wear.
The questions: Are these tyres suitable for towing with these vehicles. Is there a tyre fault or is this common problem with this brand of tyre to wear excessively on vehicles with independent rear
suspension?
I am aware of two other same brand vehicles with the identical problems using these tyres? Previous tyres, Yokohama Geolander's, lasted for 50,000 km with around 13,000 km towing the same load and no signs of excessive wear.
Reply By: vk1dx - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 13:49
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 13:49
Two questions;
1. Was the wear even across the tyre?, and
2. Was it on tarred roads or dirt, gravel etc?
Phil
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Follow Up By: My Rugby - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 19:35
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 19:35
Phil
Wear across the tread was almost even. If anything the center was worn slightly more in the center.
All of the towing was on tarred roads
Keith VK4KH
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:03
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:03
I have a set on my Triton. Have been on for 27 months, and getting close to 45,000klm now, Completed 8,000 k's on the blacktop, at the end of June, towing 1,600kg van, with 80ltrs
water, generator, 30ltrs fuel, tools and other stuff in the back of the triton.
Before we left for this trip, had done several shorter trips with the van, total of about 8,000ks, as
well as the normal highway use.
Before we left, the wear front and back was pretty much the same, maybe a little bit less on the rear, after 33,000 ks.
I run 42psi rear and 40psi front towing the van, and back to 36psi all round now around town.
Now we are back, the rear set is showing marginally more wear than the front. Still have about 5mm tread rear and 7mm front.
I also had the same tyres previously, and current wear and mileage is comparable with those, so will be happy to keep using them again.
The wear rate on your front set is comparable with
mine.
Maybe the rears need a bit more air. The max pressure as indicated on the tyres is 50 psi, so I'd be inclined to increase the pressure a bit. 38 may be a bit soft towing that weight, especially if you're on the blacktop mostly.
I'm happy with
mine, and happy to get them again.
Cheers from Fred.
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Reply By: Mark Howlett - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:40
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:40
Just checking, are the long trail's the highway tread or all-terrain? I'm commenting on the BFG A/T, if they're the same tyre you're talking about.
Pressure when hot 38psi, so cold would be 32-34 psi? We towed a camper trailer for 6 months last year doing 25000km and I'd set them at 38-40psi rear and a bit less on the front when cold. I had fridge, recovery gear etc in _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx in the rear too and a couple of kids... In total we got 75000km out of them and they were on the Prado when we bought it. Hence we have gone for the same tyre again.
I agree with above, I think you have them a bit down for the van you're towing.
Cheers,
Mark.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:46
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:46
Mark,
These are the BFG Long Trails
I ran them on a Feroza a few yaers ago now and got great highway milage out of them. I didn't tow though.
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Mark Howlett - Monday, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:45
Monday, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:45
Thanks Kev, I had a feeling...
Mark.
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Reply By: Member - Vic S (VIC) - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:48
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:48
We had a 60 series Landcruiser with A/T s towing a 16 ft van with 3 kids and all the gear that goes for a 6 month on the road ,we did 22000 km and had plenty left when we got home ,I ran the rears on 40 or 45 psi fronts on 38 or 42 ,and rotated the tyres every 5000 kms. very happy and would use them again.
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 15:52
Reply By: My Rugby - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 20:02
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 20:02
Further to the tyre pressure I run. The cold pressure is 34 PSI and 38 PSI hot. One of the other vehicles I mentioned (my brother) is running 38 PSI cold on the rears. Tyre wear on his tryes is reasonable even across the tread also. From this I assume that trye pressure is not the cause of poor tyre life. Incidentally my rear tyres have been replaced with Michelin Latitude Cross so it will be interesting to see how the wear goes with these. Currently there is only 1500 km on these and I have around another 8000km to tow before we arrive home.
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Reply By: eerfree - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 22:03
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 22:03
My Rugby
IMHO, this may not be a tyre pressure problem.
Was the van loaded differently this trip, it sounds like a considerable difference in loading to me, do you have a WDH, was there any difference in tyre wear front to back on the van, it is a tandem axle van?
Bob.
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Follow Up By: My Rugby - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 22:28
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 22:28
Bob The van is loaded exactly as it has been for the last six years and I use a HR WHD with the links set as they have been for the life of the van. It is a tandem axle van. I checked the wear on the van tryes and there is no measurable difference on any of the tyres. The other van and vehicle I mentioned is identical with loadings etc.
Keith
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