Caravan faults

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 19:25
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I would like to hear of any one who has had a Caravan chassis problem mainly Drawbar (A frame )
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Reply By: mick - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 23:31

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 23:31
Cappa,
Whats the problem you are haiving?

Mick
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Follow Up By: Member - Cappa - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 13:55

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 13:55
mick my Aframe snapped just two feet from the coupling and it landed on the groung hard i do have fotos im very very lucky
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Reply By: Bob - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:11

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:11
In 30 years of caravanning and taliking to people around parks I've never known anyone to have an A frame problem! What have you found?
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 10:30

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 10:30
Met one guy in Adelaide 2002 who had a Supreme 15ft(?) offroader a year or so old, and had travelled a fair bit up Burketown way on pretty ruggard roads, stated he had A frame fail twice, breaking thru just behind the coupling where the support strap underneath the A frame was welded, 1st time it was repaired, next time they replace the A frame, said they told him there was a problem with the way the support strap was originally welded and it had weakened the A frame metal at the at point. No problem after A frame replaced when I last spoke with him in 2002.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cappa - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 13:57

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 13:57
BOB

its the most frightening experiance when the A frame just snaps and crashes to the ground
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Reply By: Member - Cappa - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 14:00

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 14:00
Graham
its exatly the same way as that guy but my 21 foot ???? has never been on really rough roads and its three years old and only travelled 15k km
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Reply By: John - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 14:01

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 14:01
Just came back from SA/NT trip. Birdsville/Oodnadatta Tracks and Mereenie Loop Road was the extent of offroad travel. Mates 22ft Golf with independent airbag suspension (apart from breaking all 4 shockie brackets which is another story), also had a rather large crack in the weld up the front of the drawbar where both sides are joined together by a heavy plate. Waiting to hear further on his warranty claim.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cappa - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 14:09

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 14:09
John hope they fix it for you Im not having much luck with mine and out of warranty its not an insurance job but a damn manufacturing fault.
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Follow Up By: David N. - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 18:15

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 18:15
I think you might still have recourse under fair trading laws- manufacturing (design) faults are often covered beyond normal warranty as I understand it....
Talk to your states 'consumer affairs department.
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Follow Up By: Shannon - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 19:52

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 19:52
John,
I'm doing the strzelecki / Oodnadatta tracks and Mereenie loop road in June next year towing a Jayco Outback Finch and my father will be towing a 18foot OFFROAD caravan .It will be our first off road trek , could you give a couple of novices some tips from your recent experiences (how did you break/fix the shockie brackets ?)
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Follow Up By: John - Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 at 13:48

Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 at 13:48
Shannon
Sorry, been offline for a few days. We only got from Maree to William Creek before we got 10mm of rain and had to make a dash straight across to Coober Pedy or we would have been stuck at William Ck for a couple of boring days waiting for the road to dry out. Oodnadatta track was really good. Sat on 70-80km/h with no problems. Just to clear up some comments. I towed an offroad camper trailer. It was my friend who had the 22ft van. We also had a 13ft on-road van which survived very well only ripping the electric brake wires off, because the cable ties holding it to the axe were cut by stones. DON'T EXPECT CABLE TIES TO DO ANYTHING ON THESE ROADS. The Offroad Jayco Penguin which also came only lost its overhead cupboard. Those few screws didn't do the job on corrugations. Mereenie had the worst corrugations near the Kings Canyon end but generally was ok. Dropped tyre pressures about 4psi as everyone recommends. Drive at a speed you are comfortable with and at the best speed for the corrugations. We found around 80km/h. Don't make your days of driving too long. The shockies on my mates Golf did not break all at the same time. He has 2 each side. Got them fixed at Coober Pedy and Alice. Just took it easy when he noticed what had happened. Also suspect he had the airbags pumped too high. Tried to raise the van to prevent stone chips but made the suspension too firm. I'm planning to do the Strzelecki next August. I'll ask you how it went in July hey?
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Follow Up By: Shannon - Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 17:01

Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 17:01
G'Day John,
Just wondering what time of year you were on the Oodnadatta track to get 10mm of rain?
I was told May till October is the best time to go, (dry season) is that correct?
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Follow Up By: John - Wednesday, Sep 24, 2003 at 16:11

Wednesday, Sep 24, 2003 at 16:11
Sorry Shannon, I'm a bit slack again.
I was led to believe Winter is a good time. We left Brisbane on 2nd August, Birdsville 5th August, William Creek 9th August and that's when it rained. We had glorious weather until then. Mind you, 10mm of rain is normally nothing to dampen a holiday. It was a steady drizzle all night. The next day it was overcast all the way to Coober Pedy, with no more rain, but the damage had been done. Perfect weather the rest of the trip apart from a brief storm at Kulgera on the 12th August. The nights weren't even cold like I was expecting. Certainly hot enough for a swim at Ellery Creek Big Hole. In fact some days were still a little bit too hot for lengthy bushwalks. Especially when there was no wind about. I've only pushed back my trip next year to the middle of August so the wife can go to the Ekka early August. In my opinion definitely the time to go West (if you live East that is).
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Reply By: Member - Cappa - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 14:02

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 14:02
Graham
its exatly the same way as that guy but my 21 foot ???? has never been on really rough roads and its three years old and only travelled 15k km
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 15:08

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 15:08
Cappa..
.what make of van??
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Follow Up By: David N. - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 18:12

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 18:12
I agree with Graham- What make of Van?
You're only telling facts so no manufacturer can get upset with you for stating the truth...
But it may help somebody else who has a similar make...
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Reply By: Member - Cappa - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 18:13

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 18:13
Graham
at this stage i cannot give u the name due to legal proceeding but will let u know in the next few days but do have very clear pics.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 19:34

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 19:34
No problem mate, do what you have to do....but legaly I dont see any problem as long as you just state the facts...ie my xyz motor car had a wheel fall off... but dont allocate blame or cause... ie by stating xyz didnt have the use right studs or didnt do up the nuts etc... but you could say it would appear that the nuts came off maybe they we're not tightened correctly....but meanwhile do what you have to do to get it fixed by warranty.
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Reply By: Member - Cappa - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 18:17

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 18:17
David .N
please be patient with us u will know very soon there is also other issues as well but mainly is the A frame

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Follow Up By: David N. - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 20:21

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 20:21
Any chance of a link or e-mail some pics?
please ?
As I'm sure you're aware, if you only post facts, no blame, nobody can get upset.
I have a van which is just at the end of it's warranty period and I have issues too, though not A-frame-....... that I know of ????
What I DO have is totally scrubbed tyres with less than 7,500 klms!
ALKO made the axle- THEY are saying underinflated tyres is the cause, despite
1. tyres are scrubbed on outside only (just maybe "toe-in" IMHO)
2. tyres have always been at maximum recommended pressure
3. van has never been loaded to max gross weight and never been off road.
guess what my wheel alignment guy says!
Funny- he agrees with me!
I can give you an e-mail address and then phone number or whatever.

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Follow Up By: Old Jack - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 22:19

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 22:19
David, out of interest have the wheel alignment guys put the van up & measured it up & printed out the angle alignment to show to the van dealer, normal car places possibly can't do this but truck & bus alignment places CAN!
friends had a problem with a horse float with independant suspension, kept scrubbing tyres on one side, all sorts of ideas put around no one could fix the problem everyone was getting carried away until. we took the tow vehical & trailer to the truck & bus guys who measured the hole thing up. the axles was perfect except they hadn't got the things "square" to the thrust line of the trailer ie the axel mounts where not fitted in the correct alignment to one another with respect of the thrust line of the trailer. after showing the pictures and the report to the manufacture the thing was repaired, a new set of tyres supplied and the fload was good
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Follow Up By: Member - Cappa - Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 at 18:09

Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 at 18:09
ok everybody the make of the caravan is ROMA Elegance 2000 model and the chassis was built by A.E.D. which it was liquidated in 2002 so now i just wait and see what happens and the. and its pretty bad when u spend over 50g and this happens.. not happy ...........
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Reply By: Member - Cappa - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 20:26

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 20:26
David N i can send u some pic of my disaster just show youe email???
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Follow Up By: David N. - Saturday, Sep 13, 2003 at 07:05

Saturday, Sep 13, 2003 at 07:05
Thanks - if you could email to my address i would be very gratefull.

sparkydn@yahoo.com.au
Hope you get somewhere with your claim. Cheers
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Reply By: Stuart - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 22:19

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 22:19
Would like to see a couple of photos if you don't mind. Just currious. Please mail to sgoddard@tpg.com.au Thanks. Waiting for a friend to get home from holiday. He has an "Off raod" 16' van with independent wishbone suspension and he has said on the first corrugated road the inner wishbone mount tore off the chassis.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cappa - Saturday, Sep 13, 2003 at 19:07

Saturday, Sep 13, 2003 at 19:07
fotos on the way
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Reply By: GOB member vic - Saturday, Sep 13, 2003 at 16:02

Saturday, Sep 13, 2003 at 16:02
this is a very interesting post fellas i have a jayco 16ft "offroader" just 3 years old, we have been away for a month 10500ks went to darwin and back went out to rainbow valley and came down the oonadatta from marla all the way thru biggest problem even after i resealed cracks and joins was dust around air con unit around wheel arches checked under neath at william creek and found drivers side shocker bracket broken off gentleman at william ck welded for me a week before we left found roof was leaking so it will be a long letter to jayco expreesing extreme disappoint with there van as my brother in law had problems with his offroad camper as well.
i dont believe there is much qc there any more as they are busy turning out vans but worse i dont beleive they have much in the brains dept there either
maybe we should start a caravan horror story site i dont think there would be any shortage
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Follow Up By: Member - Cappa - Sunday, Sep 14, 2003 at 18:40

Sunday, Sep 14, 2003 at 18:40
Hey thats sound like a good idea we certaintly see some manufacturer and any other caravan affiliated bodies really see what goes on after they get the money ????
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Reply By: Member - Robert (WA) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2003 at 21:55

Sunday, Sep 14, 2003 at 21:55
I have just bought a coromal caravan had it three week and took it back been there for 4 weeks to get all the faults fixed up looks like they have no qc as well
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Follow Up By: Member - Cappa - Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 14:58

Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 14:58
I agree there robert its not so much QC it the question of how many we can put on the road its the ol saying lay down and take the chance after all they got the money
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Follow Up By: Member - Cappa - Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 14:59

Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 14:59
I agree there robert its not so much QC it the question of how many we can put on the road its the ol saying lay down and take the chance after all they got the money
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Reply By: Member - Roger - Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 at 13:15

Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 at 13:15
Hi All,
I towed Our 16ft Pop Top Regal desert series off road Van round Aus over the Gibb River Road, Plenty and Buchanon Highways and to many out back destinations in W.A. Total 30k with only minor troubles. Some bulldust ingress through poorly sealed wheel arches (fixed by myself with silastic enroute). The worst was when Kids ran into an open windout window in Broome. Was fixed in Karratha by the caravan repair place in the industrial area but it was a poor job by the glazier, the glass was cut 2mm short and later came apart. This was all rectified without charge by the Manufacturer. NO Quibbles.
The suspension stood up to the rough roads well as did all the fittings. In total we were away 12months and are going to do it all again come Jan.
Several people we met had chasis probs but on investigation most of these were due to inadequate chasis. Mine in comparison was much heavier material. The unladen weight is 1400kg when put over the weighbridge as I did.Chasis by Preston Chasis Vic.
RegardsDodg
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Reply By: Member - Cappa - Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 at 18:20

Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 at 18:20
ok everybody the make of the caravan is ROMA Elegance 2000 model and the chassis was built by A.E.D. which it was liquidated in 2002 so now i just wait and see what happens and the. and its pretty bad when u spend over 50g and this happens.. not happy ...........cappa
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