Modified Vehicle Survey

Submitted: Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 13:12

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Member - John (Vic)

Just received this from 4wd Victoria.
I would suggest that it may be of interest to most who frequent this forum given previous posts on this issue and I would submit that they also demonstrate that our various 4wd Associations are on the job

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Dear Club Members

Subject line VSB14 - 4X4 Vehicle modifications

VicRoads and other Government road agencies around the country have been working to have a common set of rules for vehicle modifications. These rules in their present draft will mean that all 4WD vehicles with a greater than 2 inch lift will require a engineering certificate. Lift includes body, suspension and tyres. We do not support the present position and seek your feedback. Many of our members have vehicle mods and these changes to the rules which have no basis in fact or science will limit our members capacity to improve the ride of their vehicle without incurring considerable cost.

Your Association has met with VicRoads and we are presently preparing our submission on the issue. The NSW & ACT FWD Association have also been active after the NSW Minister for Roads said that all people who drove a modified vehicle were hoons. Fortunately there was such an outcry that he has withdrawn the comment and agreed to deal with industry.

The Australian Aftermarket Accessory Association AAAA together with VACC and our Association have a working group. Scientific tests have been carried out which have shown that correctly modified vehicles have better ride characteristics than standard vehicles. Something most of us already know,

We are doing a survey of members and we seek your support. Please complete the survey.

I urge you to support us in this request for information. The link to the survey is

Modified Vehicle Survey

Thank you

Michael Coldham

President

Four Wheel Drive Victoria

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Reply By: George_M - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 14:32

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 14:32

Hi John.

Do you know if membership of ExplorOz constitutes membership of a 4WD club for the purposes of this survey?

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 14:44

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 14:44

Hi George
I would suggest that you just say "Non Member" or "No Affiliation" to that question, those form other states can also list their respective state.

I guess the main thing is to gather as much info as possible from 4w drivers as a whole and they will be able to summarise the stats to support the argument as they see fit.

The request was distributed via the respective 4w drive clubs in Vic, (Thats how I got it) I don't know if other states are doing the same or not??

You could also contact 4wd Vic direct via the web link I provided and ask the question if you wanted.

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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:10

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:10

done

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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:17

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:17

4WD NSW&ACT is just about to do a similar survey in regard to VSI50.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:37

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:37

Good to see Richard.

I wonder if they will use the same survey form as it has the ability for entry of other states and then pool the results state by state and support the breakdown with a national figure??

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Follow Up By: Richard W (NSW) - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 18:21

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 18:21

I'll pass this onto Chris Tierney the guy that is organising the NSW one.

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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:34

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:34

Just as an addition I notice that you can actually view the results live on the 4wd Vic web site.
Interesting results.

Look here Survey Results

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:12

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:12

Thanks John - Very interesting so far - Good questions. Hope lots of people fill this in.

Cheers Tony

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Reply By: V64Runner - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 16:06

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 16:06

I have to have a wry smile and a chuckle when people or organisations refer to " Engineers Report " Precisely what kind of engineer and what degrees does he ( I assume that the "engineer" is a male ?? ) have?? . What constitutes an engineer ?????. Someone who has graduated as a motor mechanic and gone to work for a government department in the motor vehicle section and then classifies himself as an engineer. Most of them that I have had dealings with in my long life time, no sweet sod all about the workings of a motor vehicle. All largely pen pushers and paper shufflers.

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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 16:15

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 16:15

" Engineers Report " refers to the reports from engineering signatories, who have been OK'ed by VicRoads, RTA etc to sign off on modifications.

Not every tom, dick and harry engineer is automatically a signatory.

Or were you taking the bleep ?

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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 18:20

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 18:20

What do you think :-)))))

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Reply By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:13

Friday, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:13

Re Q11 11. What increase in height do your tyres provide (half the increased diameter)? - I am missing something, because I have no increase for tyres and there is no option for that???

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