Constant 4wd tyres

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 16:48
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How important is it to use tyres on a constant 4wd that are the same tread depth for the same size tyres.Is there a little leeway with tread depth or do they have to be exactly the same.I am about to buy another vehicle and its the first full time 4wd one.
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Reply By: stevesub - Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 17:18

Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 17:18
We have had 2 constant $WD vehciles, a Freelander and a Rangie. With the Freelander, no problems with a mix of old/new tyres. With the Rangie, you need around the same tread depth on front and same on rear - front to rear does not seem to make any difference. If the side to side tread depth is way out, we get a vibration.

There are some tyre dealers that have told me that they have been advised by who knows who, that all 4 tyres should be the same tread depth and they will only sell you 4 tyres - at $400+ each for the Range, no way when we only needed 2 so we changed tyre dealers.

A friend of ours with an xTrail runs the same tread depth side to side but different front to rear with no problems.

Stevesub

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:41

Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:41
Stevesub,
Xtrail is a different ball game - its not a full-time 4wd. On bitumen you have the choice between frontwheel drive (2wd) or 4wd auto where it only comes in when needed. So no issue with tread depth.
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Follow Up By: stevesub - Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:51

Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:51
Sorry, brain fade. Had a very busy day today and stuffed as

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Reply By: Tenpounder (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:14

Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:14
I've been driving a Prado with constant 4WD for 11 years, and I like to use the centre diff lock on dirt at times to aid stability. Clearly, this would not be a good idea with different rolling radius front to back, since the RPM would be the same front and back, but the bigger tyres would be trying to push the vehicle faster - not good for stability.
Also, in normal conditions, with the diff lock disengaged, the front axle would be turning at a different speed than the rear all the time, and so the diff would be 'working' all the time. Doesn't seem right to me , but it may not be a problem
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:46

Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:46
You'll get a better answer if you name the vehicle. Lots of different 4wd systems out there now.

Generally, the difference in circumference between a bald tyre and new tyre is about 1-2%. Any 4wd with an open centre diff will have no problem with this.
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:17

Wednesday, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:17
I had a transfer case bearing fail in one of my cruisers. The gearbox specialist said that he has done heaps over the years of different makes due to different size from front to back.
Side to side doesn't usually cause long term damage exept if you have an LSD or locker fitted. But will cause handling issues.

I always buy 4 at a time and rotate every 10,000km so they wear evenly.

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