What on road vehicle to tow a 16'Pop top?

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 10:59
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A couple of questions for the experts:

Currently XTrail & Jayco Dove

Want to upgrade (next year) to 16' pop top and change vehicle (not sure if xtrail will tow it successfully - also fuel consumption I have heard is very high).
So, hubby wants to upgrade to 6cyl car, commodore or falcon? Manual or Auto? Any ideas?

We don't use a 4wd at this stage (and maybe not in the future) so want to get rid of it.

Also, we want to travel (eventually) around Australia - can you do this via all bitumin road ? (ie. up to Cairns, across the top, down thru wa, sa, vic, nsw and back to sunny
QLD).
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Reply By: DIO - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:26

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:26
Yes you can travel all way around Australia on bitumen rads. Either the Commodore of the Falcon (with correct tow bar) will tow the 16' Both vehicles will tow 2100 kg (or so) although that's pushing it a bit. I would suggest maximum 1800 - 1900 kg as a maximum. Whenever you place an engine under additional load it will always use more fuel. Lot depends on your driving style and prevailing conditions.
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:28

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:28
Id look at something like a Ford Territory AWD or a Kluger or Outlander. Tow your van no problems and much better than a sedan for doing the lap. Either of these can be set up on LPG to make them cheaper to run.
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Reply By: Member - William H (WA) - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:29

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:29
Keep your 4wd as you will need to go down a dirt road some time and their is more to see off the bittuman,other than parking bays,and some of the roads you will need your 4wdrive
Cheers for now...WilliamH...Bunbury...WA.
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Reply By: mylestom - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:41

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:41
Falcon have been utilising them for years, towing heaving tandem trailers, campers and boat. Not a problem and yes off a farm and used them all over that as well.

A BA/BF or the new G series has more than ample power and same motor that is in the Ford Territory, but in a lighter vehicle.

Just make sure that you have correct capacity towbar for the van.

Regards

Trev
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Reply By: tim_c - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:22

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:22
If it's just two of you travelling, you might even consider a Falcon/Commodore ute or trayback - the rear suspension is already setup to carry a load so it will cope better than a softly-sprung sedan.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:14

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:14
MrBitchi
My thoughts exactly, you beat me to it , but I would also be looking at something with a Diesel Power plant, like a 2WD Captiva

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Reply By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:32

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:32
Falcon BA/BF/FG. All tow easily and are the most underated vehicle of all time! Minimal service costs and as strong as. Have a BA one tonner and it's a great workhorse and tows a lot. Had a BF sedan, great car. Have a FG sedan and fantastic car.
Straight 6 has great useable torque and develops good power and can be quite economical when driven sensibly and jesus can it get up and go when the pedal hits the metal.
They lose their value very quick so second hand they are a steal.
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Follow Up By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:35

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:35
And auto. Manuals are rare and the auto is great with the ability to drive in 'semi manual mode". It really flies when slamming through the gears with that function.
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Reply By: Road Warrior - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:50

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:50
Another vote for the Falcon, however, steer clear of the BA - they had far too many design flaws and quality control problems that are starting to rear their ugly heads now (don't forget they're a few years old now).

Pony up the extra $$$ and buy a BF. FAR better car, better brakes, stronger transmission and just generally screwed together a lot better.
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Reply By: ozjohn0 - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 16:04

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 16:04
Both the Holden and the Ford will tow a 16" Pot Top easily.
I'm a Holden Man through and through, but when it comes to towing the Ford has the edge.
Holden Tow weight 1200kg, Ford 2300kg.
I recommend a Auto Transmission Cooler for both and the Holden will definitely need Air Lift Rear Shockers.
Both will also require a WDH.
I've just changed from a Commodore Wagon to a Ford Territory and it definitely does the job better than the Holden.
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Reply By: Member - Gary J (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 16:18

Thursday, Sep 03, 2009 at 16:18
Jazzy,
When we were on our way to Cape York, we came across quite a few caravanners using a Kia Sorento CRD. Most were running around bitumen roads in north and west QLD.
They all seemed to be getting quite exceptionally low fuel useage, around 10-11litres/100km.

From what I saw, they are pretty well built and will hold their value better than a Falcon or Commodore.
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Reply By: Fab72 - Friday, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:37

Friday, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:37
The Crewman "S" Pack would have to be by far the best tow vehicle I have ever used. Only down fall is the fuel tank size is a bit on the small size. The plus being you could quite easily throw an LPG tank in the tray. Even with just the two of you touring, it will give you the ability to carry items in the cabin at arms reach away, and still give you extra seats for that extra passenger. The towing capacity is good (2500kgs) and accessing the spare wheel doesn't require emptying the boot. My personal opinion, go for the VY model over the VZ model, a bit quieter and although not as many kilowatts as the VZ, the torque kicks in at a lower RPM. The longer wheel base and low centre of gravity also helps vehicle/van stability especially on the down hill runs.

Stick with something you can easily get parts for anywhere, so Falcon or Commodore I guess. You'd be hard pressed to find a fan belt for a Kia Sorento in Tennant Creek.

So my vote.....Holden VY Crewman "S" pack. The trans cooler goes without saying.
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Friday, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:39

Friday, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:39
Also forgot to mention. Jerry cans/gas bottles can be carried in the tray without fear of the fumes entering the cabin, even if fitted with a lockable hard lid. However, if on dual fuel, this probably wouldn't be an issue.
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Friday, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:41

Friday, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:41
The possibilities are endless...... the ute aspect certainly makes firewood collection easy too. I'll stop now and let someone else have a shot. :)
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Follow Up By: Theo58 - Monday, Sep 07, 2009 at 16:13

Monday, Sep 07, 2009 at 16:13
The crewman is a sensible option. The comfort of a sedan and the versitility of a ute.. I just upgraded my crewman to a Prado after having for 5 yrs. The 4x4 aspect will be great but well miss being able to put fire wood, Fuel, tools ect into the back without any impact into the cabin.When we were home it turned from a tow vehicle to a family car, the only thing that wasnt good was rear visablity but when you get used to it , it was ok, its also a bit longer than most cars
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