Yulara to Kalgoorlie overland

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Hi Guys - can anyone out there help me to plan an overland trip from Yulara to kalgoorlie overland on 12-14th Jan 2010 . I am travelling alone or should I find a co-driver to share the trip of 1400 km.I gather 900 km is now tar sealed.Is it crazy to travel in 40 degrees plus. The aboriginal settlements en route should be no problem - is there accommodation en route and so on. Your expert advice would be much appreciated by this UK farmer !
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Reply By: get outmore - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 06:22

Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 06:22
good possibility of too much rain that time of year.

about 400km of it is sealed (from laverton to kalgoorlie)

accomadation is pretty much at Yulara then at laverton.leonora

2 permits are required
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Reply By: Member - John H (WA) - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:53

Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:53
As long as the roads open (not closed by rain, etc) it's a fairly straightforward run.

The road from Yulara to Laverton is all dirt, but in quite good condition for the most part. As always though, there are occasional washouts, stretches of corrugations and dips, etc. I'm assuming you have a 4WD.

You can drive from Yulara to Tjukayirla Roadhouse in a day (leaving Yulara early). Tjuk has a decent camping ground out the back. From Tjuk you can drive into Kal the next day making it a reasonable 2 day drive.

As has been metioned, it's only avout 350km of tar (from Laverton to Kalgoorlie), the rest is dirt, and you should have permits also.

Just remember if you have any mechanical issues, there aren't that many people traveling along the route at that time of year as it does get a bit warm. Best make sure the 4WD is is good condition and you have some long range communications to be on the safe side as well.

I hope the info helps ................

John.

PS: Do a search on "great central road" on this site as there's quite a bit of info available.
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Reply By: Member - ross m (WA) - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:42

Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:42
Hi Ed
The middle of summer is a terrible time of year to do this trip.
I guess a late model 4wd with very good aircon could make it bearable.
You will need 2 spare tyres.
There is no motel/hotel type accomadation.
There is park acccomadation at Giles ,Warberton and Tjukayirla . Make sure you are well off the road if camping along the highway.
I camped at a water filled quarry.There are a few of them left behind by the road works crews,but I doubt there will be much water there in Jan.
Dont drive at night ,just too dangerous.
I guess about 80kph is about the max safe speed.
The centre of the road is not bad,but the other 2/3 are treacherous
Its 1000klms of reasonable dirt road and its constantly being patched up.
I measured 2050 klm from Perth to Yulara
If it rains you could be stuck for a week .

This site has road updates ,fuel prices and maps

http://www.outbackway.org.au/

A couple of pics from a
trip in April 07
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul B (WA) - Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 23:56

Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 23:56
Now steady up a bit - it's not that bad in summer. Make sure you have plenty of water and some shade in case anything goes wrong.

I used to work in Aboriginal affairs so was out there from Kalgoorlie all the time. With a reasonable vehicle it should not present great dramas, but remember January is when there is likely to be a post-cyclonic weather system dump a heap of rain out there which may close the roads for a few days, but most of the journey is well maintained "all-weather" dirt road these days. I've certainly been on the road a few days after rain when the road was just re-opened and apart from getting your car a bit dirty it's ok.

There's no need to rush the trip - there are a few things to see along the trip so take it easy and enjoy it. 90kph is generally a good speed, but there will be areas, particularly approaching the communities when the road is very corrugated and you may have to slow down a bit.

I regularly did Kalgoorlie to Warburton (930 km-odd in 10 hrs) & another 2 1/2 - 3 to Warakurna (Giles).

Good accommodation at Warakurna, Warburton, Tjukayirla (pron Chookie urla), Laverton, Leonora & Kal.

Worth the 60-odd km side trip to Empress Springs. Turn off not far from Tjukayirla. Road actually follows the native rockholes and some of these are quite pretty. Hema Desert Tracks maps show them all, but you have to search for them a bit, but that adds to the adventure.

Cheers Paul
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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 13:07

Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 13:07
Hi,
The road from the Olgas to the border is a bit rutted and sandy, but from the WA border, it is a good wide formed unsealed road. We found 90km/h a nice relaxing speed on the WA side, but someone passed us at about 130km/h in a 4wd.
Giles and Tjukayirla Roadhouse have cabins for about $60/night which are aircond if you reckon it's too hot for camping. Can't comment on Warburton, but prob something similar. Fuel at all these places is expensive - if you can fill at Curtin Springs/Yulara and carry enough to make it thru to Laverton, you'll save money.
Judging by the number of derelict 4wds at Giles, Warburton and Tjukayirla you'll need to be self-sufficient with vehicle repairs; ie, you'll want a reliable vehicle.
At the western end, Leonora/Gwalia is quite a historic place, but also south of Leonora, it's worth checking out Kookynie and historic Niagara Dam (good camping) off the main highway. And Menzies.
If you have time, take an 80km detour west of Menzies to Lake Ballard, where there is a fantastic collection of about 50 of Antony Gormley's statues spread across the salt lake. Reasonable camping spot there, and it's best to see the statues at sunset and sunrise.
cheers,
Gerry


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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 13:30

Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 13:30
Meant to mention; you'll need permits on each side of the border to travel thru Aboriginal lands, and theoretically, you're only allowed to camp at the aforesaid communities, not off the side of the road.


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Reply By: Russ n Sue - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 14:34

Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 14:34
I've just done Alice Springs to Geraldton and return in the past two weeks. The only difference is the bitumen bit at each end. As others have said, it's a very lonely road with very little traffic. It will be hotter than Hell and very hard on your vehicle, especially your tyres.

Definitely take two spare tyres, lots of water, tools and a first-aid kit. An EPIRB, sat-phone or HF radio is a must.

Accomodation is very limited, as stated. Camping off the road isn't really allowed if you take the info in the permits literally. (Both permits can be organised online. You only get 3 days to do the WA side but that's more than enough.)

As of two days ago the WA side was excellent with only a few patches of bad corrugations. The rest was dead smooth or very mildly corrugated and the graders were working near Warburton.

The NT side is rougher but you just have to slow down a bit.

Cheers

Russ
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Saturday, Sep 12, 2009 at 09:54

Saturday, Sep 12, 2009 at 09:54
Gday Russ,
The Mrs. and I were just talking about doing the same trip this morning.
What a realistic time to go from Alice to Geralton?
We were thinking about a one night stop over somewhere, but really havent thought much about it yet.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Russ n Sue - Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 18:20

Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 18:20
G'day Hairy,

Realistically you are looking at 27 hours of driving. How often you take breaks, and for how long, is up to you. From Alice I got to a point about 100Km the west side of Warburton on the first day. I left at 7:00 AM and stopped at sundown. I camped in a lay-by on the side of the road. Four cars went past, none stopped.

The following day I put in a real big one and ended up arriving Geraldton at 8:00 PM at night after setting off at 5:30 AM that morning. That said, I did stop to assist a motorist that was in trouble and that took a while.

Just a tip. Get the fuel you need from where you need to but get as much as you can from Leonora. I filled at Alice and got to Laverton, but didn't have enough to get to Leonora, so I took on $100.00 worth at Laverton at $1.47 per litre. I figured that this would get me to Mount Magnet, where it would be cheaper.

I should have got just enough to get me to Leonora ($1.30 / Litre) and that would have got me to Geraldton. As it was it was dearer at Mount Magnet ($1.41 / L).

My estimate of 27 hours is based on doing 130KPH from Alice to the Lasseter Hwy, 110 KPH to the Rock, 100 KPH to the Olgas, average 70 KPH on the gravel on the NT side of the border, average 90KPH on the WA side of the border and 110 KPH for the remainder of the bitumen on the WA side. The computer in my car said that I averaged 88.8 KPH for the entire trip (including suburban roads in Gero and Alice.)

I could have gone faster on the gravel on the WA side, it is excellent condition, but I'm always wary of tyre failures so I "softened and slowed".

Hope this helps

Russ
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 20:53

Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 20:53
Thanks Russ......
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Reply By: Holden4th - Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 20:12

Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 20:12
Coming the other direction in May 07 i did:

Kal - Laverton

Laverton - Warburton

Warburton - Curtin Springs.

Realistically you could do:

Yulara - Tjukayirla

Tjukayirla - Kal

I don't think Tjukayirla has accommodation outside of camping. Personally, I'd look at the three day option.



But in summer, I don't see the point.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 20:56

Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 at 20:56
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Reply By: greenextreme - Friday, Sep 18, 2009 at 15:02

Friday, Sep 18, 2009 at 15:02
Hi Edwards, post-cyclonic rains and thunderstorms could make the road impassable that time of the year. Best you phone Giles weather station [google it] and ask them for their opinion 1-2 days before heading off. Check the website www.outbackway.org.au for info on the route. No it's not crazy to drive the road in 40-deg heat but it does require good aircon, a reliable car, safe driving and some preparation. Enjoy
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