Got me Stumped...! who would do it?

Who made them?

Mindless vandals with ntohing else to do but destroy

Maybe?

Maybe they were deliberately removed to try and dissuade rock fishing if lives have been lost from that location?

We seem to have an annual run of deaths from southwest rocks here in WA, when the salmon run is on, the waters cold (16 or 17 degrees) and the locations are hours away from a harbor with rescue boats so most who fall in down from hypothermia within an hour or two.

The Parks Authorities here in the past have done just what you say - removed rod holders and erected signs warning of the risks and begging people not to take the risk.

In places where it;s deemed safe (within rescue time by boats from sea rescue) - they go to the trouble of erecting tie downs where you can attach yourself with a rope to stainless steel loops epoxied into holes drilled in the rocks, so you don;t get washed in and they also erect life rings to ropes on stands to be thrown to anyone who does fall in, because a flotation device can extend hypothermia fatality times for 2 or 3 hours out to 6 or 7 hours allowing for rescue to be effected.

I don;t know about the location you mention - but just maybe there's a sound reason the holders were removed to discourage angklers from taking uneccessary risks.

Public liability these days for the land tenure managers - means that if rod holders put there by anyone from the public are left in situ - then thats a tacit approval from the managing authority, to go rock fishing there if they arent removed!

When some kid gets washed in and drowns - then the family can successfully sue the land management authority for negligence in encouraging unsafe practices by NOT removing the rod holder or erecting life saving devices etc.

I recall our local parks Authority got successfully sued back when i worked for them, when guy injured his back on a swing rope erected by the public in a tree overhanging a pool in the river, in one of our parks. The steel eyelet the rope was attached wore and rusted thru and he just ahppened to be the guy swinging on it at the time.

Even tho we never erected it - or approved of its use - we were the land manager and by not for seeing the hazzard and removing it before hand we were deemed negligent in the suit and lost.

Sometimes there are legal reasons behind removal of such things as concreted rod holders on the rocks, that aren't explained at all - is all i am trying to say.

Whether that's the case in this instance i don;t know but maybe something to ponder.

There was another tragedy at Gracetown beach in WA - where a local school held a surfing carnival for students at the local beach. It started to rain and some of the kids and teachers took shelter in a limestone overhanging cliff face from the rain. The cave collapsed and buried quite a few of them fatally.

We got sued for that one too - for not for-seeing the danger and dynamiting all the limestone cliff caves along all our beaches to prevent such tragedy's.

So - we did end up having to go do that - dynamite limestone cliff faces onnto the beach that anyone might shelter in so it couldnt collapse on them.

Public Liability is in the many many millions of $ these days - its a huge issue for land managers, even station owners in the outback who by law can;t stop you passing thrui their crown leasehold land - are then liable if you get hurt on their land.

Just your average picnic / BBQ site in the forest - Parks gets sued if you have a picnic in the forest on a windy day and a branch falls on someones head!

We are s'posed to have forseen every hollow or weak branch (widow maker) and removed it or fallen the tree.

No one takes ANY personal responsibiulity for their actions these days there always HAS to be someone else to sue when bad things happen and nature takes her toll.

It's just the world we live in these days - sadly!

Cheers

So, smashing out rod holders "that had carefully been made with some quick set cement" on the foreshore rocks is vandalism, but creating said rod holders with some quick set cement in same foreshore rocks is OK????

Hi Uncle,

I believe that people are trying to reduce risks in our lives.I'm a big boy, I can surely make decisions on what I can and cant do. If I lost my life due to something that I was doing then its my fault no one elses.

I dont like the government or anyone telling people how to life their lives.

I believe Australia would be far better if the courts stopped allowing the mindless litigations that are being awarded and let people assess the risks for themselves otherwise we will continue to blame other people for their shortcomings.

Regards Mike