Using a Portable Fridge

Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:20
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Can anyone please point me to a basic 'how to' article on using a car fridge? I have found various articles and discussions about portable fridges, but none that explains to a complete novice how to operate one when camping. Many thanks
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Reply By: Member - Timbo - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:34

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:34
What did you want to know? Once you've got a suitable power source, plugged it in, switched it on, set the temperature - there's really not much to do apart from:
1. Open lid
2. Remove 1 beer (or other suitable beverage according to taste)
3. Close lid
4. Repeat as desired

There are many variables involved as follows:
Different types of fridges have different power consumption requirements (generally compressor-driven fridges are most efficient on 12v but there are other advantages for thermo-electric or 3-way fridges)
For longer stops, you'll need a bigger battery and/or some method of charging it
Then there are all sorts of common sense type things to help the fridge run efficiently, such as: don't put warm or hot food/drinks in, let them cool (preferably overnight) before adding them, don't open the door more than you have to (and not for longer than you have to), keep the fridge in the shade, etc.
Unless you get a thermometer, setting the temperature is a bit of trial and error (similar to the fridge at home) and will depend a bit on what you're keeping inside.
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Follow Up By: Excel Driver - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:01

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:01
Thanks for the replies. . .

Its those times when the car will be stopped for a few hours, or we're at a non-powered camp site that I'd like to know about. How do you work out how long you can run the fridge while the car's not running? How long can you leave the fridge switched off at different temps without ltting your food go off?
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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 23:22

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 23:22
Much of it is trial and error.

A lot of fridges have a cut out when the voltage drops to a certain level that you can still start the vehicle at.
If your fridge does not have this function ,you can buy an inline gadget that does the same thing.

One tip is to turn the fridge to low temps while you are driving and turn it back up when the engine is off.
On cool nights ,you can even turn the fridge off.
It also helps to put some thought into how your food is packaged.
For example ,vac packed meat uses less power to store than frozen meat.
I keep my salad items in square containers.
A bottle of frozen water can keep it colder if you have room

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Follow Up By: tim_c - Saturday, Oct 03, 2009 at 19:24

Saturday, Oct 03, 2009 at 19:24
Sorry for delay - I tried to post this the other day but my internet connection was going too slowly...

Firstly, I would recommend buying the biggest capacity battery you're willing to pay for and willing to carry in the car - if you get something too small, you'll regret it everytime you use it, but you'll be unlikely to ever regret getting one with 'too much' capacity! And it’s much cheaper to go up a size in the initial purchase than to buy another/bigger battery later.

"How do you work out how long you can run the fridge while the car's not running?"
Batteries are rated in Amp hours, that is put simply: generally the number of hours the battery can provide 1 Amp before being 'flat'. Theoretically, most compressor fridges use about 3.5-4.0 Amps while running. If it was to run continuously for an hour, this would equate be 3.5-4.0 Amp Hours. Usually a fridge will switch on and off (by the thermostat) to regulate the temperature. Often this means the fridge is only running for about 1/4 or 1/3 of the time (and of course this can vary significantly depending on the set temp, outside temp, how often you open the fridge, quality/thickness of insulation, etc.) meaning that in any given hour, you would be using approx between 0.9 and 1.3 Amp hours each hour. Assuming you have a healthy (and fully charged) 48 Amp Hour battery, based on the figures above, you could probably expect the battery to last up to 36 to 48 hours depending how much of the time it is 'running'. In practice, I've always found that my portable battery pack never runs my fridge (Waeco) as long as it 'theoretically' should! Remember that a battery might be rated at XX Amp Hours when new, but won't retain this whole capacity for long.

"How long can you leave the fridge switched off at different temps without letting your food go off?"
This will depend on what food you have in it, as well as outside temp, how often you open the fridge, whether the fridge is in the sun, etc. of course, the quality/thickness of insulation, and lastly, how full your fridge is (a full fridge will 'hold' temperature better (due to the higher thermal mass) but will also require more effort ie. running time to restore the required temperature when you switch it back on). This one is going to be a bit of trial and hopefully not too much error! If it is a cool evening in the Vic Alps, there should be no problem leaving it off overnight, but if you are in the tropics you might need to leave it switched on all the time. The best way to get an idea of the inside fridge temp (remember that you let heat in everytime you open the lid) will be to get a digital thermometer (Woolies used to sell cheapies for $10 in the elect section or Jaycar/Dick Smith might have something a little better for $20-30) and watch how quickly/slowly the temperature changes when you switch the fridge off.

I hope all this helps. I'd also recommend you click here for an ExplorOz article on portable fridges. It's a long article but there are headings that deal with power usage, how to get the most out of the fridge (ie. improve efficiency).

Again, I'd recommend getting the biggest battery you are willing to pay for and are willing to carry - I run my fridge off a 60 Amp Hour "Blue Apple" portable battery pack (from "Home of 12v") and I always wish I'd gone the next size up to 75 Amp Hour! I'd also recommend not running the fridge from your vehicle's main battery even if the fridge has a low voltage cut-out - from my experience they don't always cut out when they should!
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Reply By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:45

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:45
Excel Diver - If you are just overnight camping youmay get away with the fridge running on your car battery, but given the size of the car it would not be a big battery, so you may need a deep cycle from day one - If you intend to camp for longer periods then you will need a lot more.

State exaclty what you intend to do and run it from. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:51

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:51
Good information link


Woops here is good info Cheers
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Reply By: trainslux - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:48

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:48
What type of fridge are you looking at, or wanting to know about.

the 3 way, 12v 240v and gas, have different requirements to the 12v 240v compressor fridges that are out there.

What type of camping, are you staying put for a while, ie 3 days or more, or is it just overnight.

If you can be more specific, we can give more direct answers.

for my evakool fridge freezer, I just run it on high for 2 days before heading off, and pre plan my meals, and cut down roasts and pre freeze them in dinner size portions, all this gets frozen, then put in the fridge on high.
If you use the fridge before you head off, you will know what setting it needs to be on to keep things cool and frozen, or unfrozen.

Best bet is to have everything pre frozen/ chilled, cooled before heading off, and then go from there.

T
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Reply By: obee1212 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:44

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:44
I own an Evakool and a very good fridge it is as I expect are all the other brands. From my own experience I would suggest thinking about cyrovac-ing all the stuff you might ordinarily want to freeze and then running your fridge such that it will chill and not freeze. Keeping stuff frozen demands a lot more from your battery and recharging sources than may be practical.

Consider too, where and how far away from a town you are going to get. A fridge and a deep cycle battery are a big investment if you are not going to use them a lot. I like to remind people that this land was opened up a long time before fridges were even thought of and maybe it's just a luxury.

If it is just the cold beer at the end of a long day then it does not take much to chill a few cans while you driving. You can shut the fridge down at bedtime and start again next day.

It is like the proverbial piece of string, ay. A couple of thousand bucks worth of fridge, generator, solar panels and deep cycle battery versus a few two dollar bags of ice. Somewhere in between is what YOU want and need to make your holidays a pleasure.

Happy travels

Owen
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Reply By: Excel Driver - Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 11:08

Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 11:08
Thankyou all for helping - I now have a lot clearer idea of the issues I need to sort out before deciding what gear we will need.

and just for info, have decided to upgrade from the Excel to a Corrolla wagon!

Cheers and thanks again.

Alison
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