Ah i have solved a problem with opening pages on EO

Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:02
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I was just about to turn the thing off with frustration then thought no its not getting the better of me. I went through other things some have suggested on past threads to fasten things up. I took off power save as I use a laptop . Presto no more problems.
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:09

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:09
Old Girl

I've got 4 desktops two laptops and a PC in the Troopy, they all have the same problem with the site slow to load and open at time.

They all very in age and what programs they have on them W95 to XP. even tried Windows 7 and still had the problem.

A couple of time replying to Mick O post I could have made a cup-per.

Cheers

Richard

But it's good the hear you have solved your problem.. :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:14

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:14
Yeah but you live in Perth and everything is slow in Perth :-))

Hows your Hip job going?

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:17

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:17
Richard just a second thought??
Are you running all those machines via a wireless LAN??
If so you may try to reboot your wireless router and see if that helps.

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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:24

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:24
Richard I was just thinking where do you sit with all that computer gear in the troopy lol.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:43

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:43
John I think the problem is the Server is in QLD.. You know what I mean...

2 desktops run ADSL and I'm a computer gamer.. I reboot... the other two desktops and laptop that in my country ranch are on dial up (and that is slow) but will still sometimes beat this site.

But the main old faithful laptop is LAN, diaup, and next G which is 7G. can still have the problems.

PC in Troopy can run on wireless LAN or Next g card.

They will work it out, but I think there not home. on a little trip. David's little car is in the middle of WA Track ME.

Hip is getting better 4 weeks today it was replaced. on crutches for 6-8 weeks Robyn went back to work yesterday so home alone. Just went for a walk up and down the block. (need a rest now :-)

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Sharon

Thats why we drive a Troopy, so we can fit all the thigs in. :-))
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:16

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:16
Yes its a QLD problem for sure!! ;-))

With Robyn back at work you will just have to do the vacuuming yourself now, good physio for ya ;-)

Just don't fall over and bugger up all the good work done by the doctors.

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:27

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:27
John

No she can do that,,,,, if we go on any longer without having the name Kev or mark we will be done for chit chat.. LOL

I'm going to take it easy this thing only comes with a 20 year warranty.. :-)

whoops forgot to say the magic word........................... St George.. LOL

Did you look up to see where Davids car was?

I was just looking at all this dust on the keyboard,, I'll have to have a talk to her when she gets home.. ;-))

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:31

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:31
20 year warranty?? Thats better than a Nissan warranty any day ;-))

Yeah he is out the middle of WA until the 7th October doing some work on the 2010 gathering apparently??

Dust on the keyboard, bugga!! She's a lazy one to miss vacuuming the computer.

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Reply By: Serendipity of Mandurah (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:32

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:32
I run the latest iMacs hardwired to broadband and a iMac laptop wireless to broadband all using the latest updates and still have troubles loading EO pages. I don't think it is a home computer issue. My service provider had a look and felt it was some of the external links on the page that are to blame. Some adverts are so 'heavy' that the page can loop endlessly trying to reload and timing out and then trying to reload.

This morning the whole lot just locked up for ages I got bored of waiting and went of and did some work.

When I blow my download limit and get shaped - that is it. No loading of EO at all until the end of the month.

No other websites seem to be effected in this way. I can go off looking at anything else no problems.

I love this site but this black duck is getting so frustrated.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:42

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:42
"No other websites seem to be effected in this way."

- precisely my experience.
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Follow Up By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:09

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:09
not the only one, yesterday i gave up as it would NOT load!! today it is not bad.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duke (TAS) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:14

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:14
I did what Ozhumvee suggested yesterday and installed Adblock and Flashblock and it fixed the problem for me. Superfast!!
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Follow Up By: viz - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:31

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:31
It is an unfriendly (to computers) website - too much flash, too top heavy. I have Macs, run Safari and Firefox and have the same problems, tough not all the time.

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Follow Up By: austastar - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:48

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:48
Gave up yesterday too
Ubuntu on Dell Optiplex 745 on Govt internet (fast)
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Follow Up By: mazcan barry - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:49

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:49
hi
this eo server has a big problem i've battle for days cleaned out and installed the latest and read all the blogs done every thing possible

the result i'm getting less than dialup speed here and i'm on high speed adsl unlimited
i can click on any -yes any other site- and get instant connection and download but eo site refuses yesterday i went to the kitchen and made a sandwich and cup of coffee and was just walking back into the computor room to see it finally open the thread i had selected
it's worst than my old original dialup system back in 2000 EO is faulty say what you like
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:25

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:25
Hi Old Girl,
Firstly the power save off is for use when you are running from the Laptop's battery, so if you are using it via 240 volts,it will make no difference.
I have tried every suggestion that has been posted, and it make no difference here in country SA. I am afraid that it is only this site, as when I go to a couple of other site that I go to, they load immediately. It is the same as the spell check, takes many minutes and sometime times out.

I like most users here on EO wait and hope that David gets to the bottom of it soon.

Cheers

Stephen
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Follow Up By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:01

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:01
Stephen, you are going travelling early October, but of you wait for the browser to refresh, it will be November.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 07:57

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 07:57
Hi John
Because of the wet weather next week expected, we have decided to cancel travelling over you way and are heading to the Flinders for the first week, then taking the Kayaks up to the Riverland the next week. We hope to head your way again early next year.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:48

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:48
Stephen, you better send me a text as to where you are to be. We are heading to the Eyre Peninsula in the middle of the second week and not decided which way we will head there. May catch up along the way.

All the longer range forecasts for here have been very dry, but to date haven't been fulfilled. Quite the opposite actually
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Reply By: Kirk and Jeanette - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:30

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:30
Having same problems as well. Certain times of day. Guess the site is just busy. One day fine next day takes ages to load a page
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Reply By: Dunedigger - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:43

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:43
I have all adds blocked and blocked all scripts from running on the site when I view pages. I don't have the problem as much but still some times a EO page will be slow to load.

However on ping tests I am getting slowish returns
Reply from 210.247.153.145: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=122



I am sure that David has looked at this but I might provide more feedback
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:27

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:27
I think David said in a previous post that blocking script will cause the site to do odd things also??

It will limit quite a number of site functions from memory??
Need to do an archive search to find out his comments.

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Follow Up By: Dunedigger - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 22:02

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 22:02
John (Vic),

In terms of viewing the forum there is no need to run the scripts for the page to load correctly. I realise that there are many other functions that need scripts to work.

When I do a TRACERT there are 20 hops with some of them timing out.

While I don't know a lot about how all this works, if there are 20 hops then there a lot of links in the chain that can cause the site to bog down

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 22:05

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 22:05
He refers to the script issue in this thread.

Thread No 71230

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Reply By: Atta Boy Luther - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:12

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:12
Its to do with code . I just updated java to java 6 update 16 and the exploroz website seems to be fixed for the moment . Also you will notice at the bottom of the page that doesnt load , it will have a .aspx . Google .aspx slow and there are hundreds of sites saying aspx is slow to load . Just more microsucks rubbish i guess .
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Follow Up By: Atta Boy Luther - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:56

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:56
As i said , aspx looks useless . Instead use php instead for web development .
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:31

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:31
At times I just give up and go elsewhere.

I am sure it is the EO server at fault.

It reminds me of my earliest days on the web back in 1994.
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:40

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:40
Often load speeds are 'normal' however some times are up to 6 minutes, yes I've timed it.

When you read the 'information bar' down the bottom left you see the message "waiting for www . exploroz bla bla bla....."
so I think it's the server

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:45

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:45
the above post took >3 minutes to load :-((

The 'Green' coloured thingo showed 100% done instantly, but the message at the bottom left was saying: "waiting for www . expl bla bla etc etc"
(sory bout the big technikerl werds)

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Reply By: Member - ross m (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 23:10

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 23:10
I wont be renewing my membership if its not fixed when my renewals due.
Its an ongoing problem that has existed as long as I have been visiting this site which is at least since 2005.
Ive sent emails and they are answered with fake surprise as if they have never heard of it.
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 23:31

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 23:31
It just took 2 minutes and 45 seconds to load a link to forum item. 23.30 at night.
WTF
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 23:40

Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 23:40
I was going to say that it took so many minutes to open the reply button to the above when the whole thing finally crashed and told me: 'Server Error in '/' Application.

Thread was being aborted.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.Threading.ThreadAbortException: Thread was being aborted.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:


[ThreadAbortException: Thread was being aborted.]
System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step, Boolean& completedSynchronously) +486
System.Web.ApplicationStepManager.ResumeSteps(Exception error) +501
System.Web.HttpApplication.System.Web.IHttpAsyncHandler.BeginProcessRequest(HttpContext context, AsyncCallback cb, Object extraData) +123
System.Web.HttpRuntime.ProcessRequestInternal(HttpWorkerRequest wr) +379'

Could this be Conficker?
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Follow Up By: viz - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 05:12

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 05:12
Macs don't get conflicker - I have had similar problems in the past, quite often with the back button or reload.

viz
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:00

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:00
I meant in the server. Are the EO servers Mac based?
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 07:07

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 07:07
I always try and look at every thing in a positive way and have tried not to get too concerned about how slow the site has been for me for several months.

I thought it may have been our laptop and wireless internet, but now me thinks not!

The past few months have been horribly slow. I like others hope David and the crew can fix the problem very soon.

And like other users I have no problems with other sites.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Kerry W (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:55

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:55
Hi All
All thanks for being so understanding.

Cant help much as I don't have much to do with site content.
But can explain a bit for now. (And this is only my limited understanding at the moment).

Can only suggest that there may still seems be a caching issue and/or a need to update your flashplayer software for now. David is aware of it, thought it was fixed, but needs tweaking. However look at the suggestions in thread 71230

Also to answer a question I saw earlier -The reason the site uses aspx instead of other formats is for the mapping facilities it provides for Trek Notes, Plot swap and other mapping applications.

Re Other sites and speed. Fastest ones are often just a forum and some static information. and rarely need major updating. Whereas a live site like ExplorOz has over 70,000 pages, many of these live and interactive. Including mapping facilities, trek notes, personal profiles blogs and photos etc etc

It is a real challenge (obviously, as not many attempt it) to have a live interactive website where readers can participate and add so much content (e.g. in features like blogs, places mapping, trader and personal profiles etc etc) While this is no excuse for slow speed (as even with all these features as you know - sometimes it loads very fast) it does explain why other sites may be faster at the moment - they just may not offer as many features and live interaction and therefore are easier to maintain.

Yeah i know excuses excuses excuses!

I know this does not help much but at least I may be able to reduce speculation as to the cause of it. I have experienced the slowdowns, it is frustrating when it is slow to say the least.

David will sort this for us.

hope this helps and thanks for your patience (sorry cant answer any queries personally)

Kerry W
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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:46

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:46
When it hangs and is slow to load a page, I see at the bottom left of the page the message "transferring data from bs.serving-sys.com"
A Google search gave, amongst others, this resultbs.serving-sys
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Follow Up By: mazcan barry - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:02

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:02
i updated my flashplayer to the very lastest several days ago with no change in the EO problem sorry but
keep searching your excuses list
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