Jump Pack 240v Charger Advice

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:00
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Hi all:

One for the electrically inclined.

The 240v charger for my Jump Pack battery has died. The labelling on the charger states it is 240v 50~ input, 12v 1000~ output.

Two questions;
1. I have a 12v 500~ charger. Can I use this to get the jump pack fully charged again?

2. Where can I buy a replacement 1000 mA recharger?

This is not a brand-name Jump pack, but is has been very handy, and is over 3 years old and still working well.

Many thanks.

Jack
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Reply By: DIO - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:14

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:14
Jaycar LINK

Dick Smith LINK
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:32

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:32
A 500mA charger will take twice as long to charge as a 1000mA charger.

But you HAVE to make sure you're getting a 1000mA charger for Gel Batteries - there are many 12volt 1000ma packs for sale - but if you get the wrong one, you'll damage the battery by under- or over-charging.
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Reply By: Secret Mens Business - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 13:16

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 13:16
No sure about your model jump pack. Mine uses a 1amp or 1000ma 12V charger or power pack. You can also use a universal 1amp 12v power pack available from any electronics store. (They come with different plugs to suit different arrangements).

On the other hand there are 12V 1000ma battery chargers that have battery clips on the end for direct connection to the terminals of a battery. Having said all this I have also charged my jump pack by connecting a lead acid charger directly to the positive and negative alligator clips of the jump pack.

So you have quite a few options. The trick is to keep the battery inside the jump pack healthy otherwise it's life span decreases.
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Follow Up By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:14

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:14
Pssst SMB ......"You can also use a universal 1amp 12v power pack available from any electronics store. (They come with different plugs to suit different arrangements)."

This is not advisable for battery charging. These "Universal power packs" are generally simple transformer/rectifier units with no current or voltage regulation. Their current rating is the maximum current that you should draw from the unit but a discharged battery may draw more than this rating and so damage the power pack.

If the power pack is a voltage regulated type, then a 12v power pack will not produce sufficient (approx 14v) to adequately charge a 12v battery.

In short, only use a proper battery charger, preferably a multi-stage charger.

Incidentally Jack, whilst you could use your 500mA charger, it is pretty miserable and you would do better to use 1A at least.

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Follow Up By: Secret Mens Business - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:20

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:20
Pssst Allan....."Thankyou for your enlightening wisdom on power packs vs battery chargers, well aware of this. In Jacks case the particular Jumper Pack details were not available, I am in my nineth year or keeping my Jumper Pack alive.!"



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Follow Up By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:31

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:31
If you were well aware of the shortcomings of using universal power packs for battery charging why did you suggest same as a valid alternative?

What has the un-availability of Jack's details have to do with my warning of using power packs for battery charging? What advice would you offer Jack if you had his details?

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Follow Up By: Secret Mens Business - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:39

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:39
Allan, I would recommend to Jack a like for like replacement of his charger, there are various versions with either din plugs or alligator clips etc etc, without knowing what Jumper Pack he has. I have in emergencies used a universal power pack when I have been 200kms offshore in a boat, and it worked fine. yes whilst it may not be the ideal replacement it worked nevertheless and as I say and have had 9 years out of my jumper pack so far by ensuring the battery component had always had some charge. I have also used a seperate small lead acid battery charger and connected it via the alligator clips.

Now can we move on please Allan, for crying out loud.
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Follow Up By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:53

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:53
Yes SMB, of course we can move on. Jack seems pretty intelligent and will have got the right message.

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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 15:02

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 15:02
Yes I to have used a universal power pack when I have had to. The cheaper no name Jumper Packs use cheap and nasty chargers. Everyone I know that has had one has had their charger pack fail, Chinese cheapies. There are some suitable chargers at 1000ma 12v with alligator clips on Ebay for not much, I have listed one below, plse ensure if you are buying from the USA that the product is not 110v only. As someone else suggested going to Jaycar or Dick Smith would be an intelligent option for buying something suitable.
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:37

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 14:37
Jack,

Here's what I do.

I bought a Projecta BM140 Charge Controller (about $50) which goes between a 4 amp battery charger (that I already had) and the jump pack. The Charge controller turns your exixting charger into a two stage charger; that is to say once the battery is fully charged into goes into float mode. Hence no chance of over charging.

Also very handy to attach to any other batteries to keep them full.

If I haven't made sense of this give me a call on 03 9706 6527.

Regards,

Jim.

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Reply By: Member - Jack - Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 16:13

Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 at 16:13
Thank you all ... I have the info I needed, and some attractive looking alternatives. Whilst my battery pack is not top of the range, it works well and has plenty of life left in it yet.

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