Toyota unveils shorty (three-door) Prado
Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 21:15
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Member - Timbo
Toyota has announced yesterday that the next generation Prado 150-Series range will also include a SWB model. See "
All New Prado coming soon" for more info (including a couple of photos).
Due to the reduced weight (compared to the 5 door 'big brother'), it is expected to have a towing capacity of 3,000kg (500kg more than the 5 door Prado). Toyota says the 3-door is "Aimed at a younger buyer seeking recreational off-road fun" but I wonder if the extra towing capacity might appeal to a few
grey-nomads for towing their "houses" around Oz?
It will be interesting to see how popular the SWB is in Oz considering you don't see too many people in the SWB Jackaroos, Fronteras & Pajeros compared to the LWB versions...
Reply By: Wherehegon - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 21:54
Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 21:54
Looks good, I like the mitsi pajero shorty as
well, even saw an old shorty troopy the other day still reckon their a great thing, no good for us at the moment with a little one but as you said, for couples,
grey nomads would be great, although some people dont aggree with towing with a short wheel base vehicle. Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 17:36
Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 17:36
There is nothing wrong with a short wheel base vehicle for towing if it is set up properly with WDH. In fact if you go to the RACQ Vehicle towing Mass Guide
http://tinyurl.com/l855pl you will see that Toyota require you to use WDH - "#1 load levelling hitch req." - for all the later model vehicles of all types.
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Reply By: rags - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 21:56
Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 21:56
Timbo
I think you will find that the 3000kg relates to all the range swb/lwb, and is an increase over the 2500kg of the current 120 series,you also find that it is probably longer wider and can jump tall buildings in a single bound ! but i still like my 90 series prado which is worth substancially less than the new models.
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Follow Up By: Member - Timbo - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 13:15
Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 13:15
LOL! You could be right Russ, perhaps I misread the article on Toyota's website but I understood to imply that the 5-door wagon would still have only 2,500kg towing capacity, with the difference being due to the lower weight of the 3-door:
"Lower weight for the three-door versions is expected to translate into even better real-world acceleration - as
well as a small improvement in fuel economy and emissions.
Another key benefit of the three-door is its strong towing capacity of three tonnes (braked) - 500kg more than the already-impressive five-door. "
BTW: Inclined to agree about the 90-Series - never quite took to the 2003-on models with the headlights stretching almost to the top of the bonnet (headlights should shine forwards, not upwards)! The looks of the new one don't excite me too much either - might just have to hope I can still find a good 90-Series!
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Reply By: rocco2010 - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 00:24
Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 00:24
Gidday
How would you Toyota buffs like a three-door Prado with long wheel base? Sort of a mini troopy.
I dont need a four-door vehicle and the Landcruiser troopy is really a bit big (and expensive). The three-door Paj and Prado on the swb look a bit small, not much room in the back. I am a tenter, not a tower so i need room for gear.
It seems to me that a lwb Prado sized vehicle without the extra doors and seats and a nice
long flat storage floor would be ideal.
Any expert opinions?
Cheers
Rocco
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 04:04
Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 04:04
why not just remove the back seats and lock up the rear doors-use them for handy access if needed but otherwise ignore them?
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 07:44
Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 07:44
Probably not here Rocco.
As we now often sleep in our patrol , one might think a troppy 2 door would be a good option. But for a strange reason we found them not suitable.
We had friends with a troppy who sleep inside it and they found they have to crawl over the bed to get in , and while doable it makes it surprisingly more difficult to live with.
With our Patrol setup you still enter the double bed by opening either of the second row doors , sit on the bed edge and just swing around.
Simple thing really, but made a great difference to the practicality of
camping arrangement.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 17:14
Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 17:14
I'm in the same situation - only two of us, so don't need 4 doors. So I got rid of a near new Prado and went for what I've got now because of "ACCESS" (and space and more payload).
My current canopy has two 1.8M wide side doors - equals 3.6 metres of access. The Prado you're suggesting would have 1 metre of access via the rear door. It means you don't have to move or unpack to get to stuff. Makes a huge difference on
the desert trips. Pull into
camp, lift up a side door and grab a chair and a drink and you're set.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 17:19
Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 17:19
Those of the old school thinking keep saying something like "you need weight up front to control a caravan" what are they going to say about this quote from Timbo's link:
"Another key benefit of the three-door is its strong towing capacity of three tonnes (braked)^ - 500kg more than the already-impressive five-door."
Here we have a manufacturer that generally has conservative tow weights for its vehicles giving a larger tow weight for a vehicle when they have reduced its weight.
PeterD
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