colorado problem again and again

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:31
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g'day all,

Just walked down to get the papper this morning and found oil leaking out of my rear diff. Iv tryed to tighten it but its as tight as... but its still leaking out there should be a seal in that area aye? its got me thinking that Zupps at mt gravatt has sealed a breather in there as well like they did to my engine breather and gearbox breathers... why you ask i asked them the same thing and all i got back was from the mangager was "i cant watch all of them in what they do"

im gonna be taking it back to a differnt holden to zupps on monday to find out if im right becouse last time when they sealed all the breathers it blew all the seals in the engine and gearbox even pushed oil where oil shouldent have been so the other manager told me.

so not happy with holdens crap
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Reply By: DCTriton - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:55

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:55
There should be a crush washer behind the drain and filler plugs - I would suspect that if the diff was over pressurising, the oil would seep past the axle or pinion seals before it crept past the plug seals... If they changed the diff oil and didn't replace the crush washer, the oil would almost certainly seep out regardless of diff pressure...
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Reply By: dbish - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:24

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:24
Shaneo86, I dont think its realy Holden crap more like you have managed to find crap mechanics @ service manager.
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Reply By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:35

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:35
If you have had so many problems with the dealers why do you persist on fart arsing around with them? go to holden themselves and complain. my mate used to work at fishermans bend in engineering, he used to see the cars that dealers took back due to ongoing issues of many varieties and various models ( he also used to get flown interstate to identify and rectify electrical problems when the dealer couldnt ). go to your states GMH armed with all of the invoices and correspondence you have had with the dealers. if they deem it enough of a problem and you bought it new they should do something. they may give you another vehicle- BUT have you done any mods to it or is it standard. if it is modified in any way it may be all in vain. they more than likely wont want to know you ( been there, done that so i know first hand ) this would be the way i would now attack it.
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:05

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:05
now shaneo86 you sure you weren't caught fixing up the managers wife from the dealership you brought your Colorado from !!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Fatso - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 22:39

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 22:39
I have had 2 Nissans & 5 Toyotas & have only ever had 1 (yes thats right,one) scheduled vehicle serevice at any dealer. I use them to buy vehicles & for any warranty claims & that is it.
Do yourself a favour & form a working relationship with a good mechanic. Most mechanics can remain in business for decades on the back of the quality service they provide. A good mechanic would have you fixed up without hesitation.
Dealerships workshops rely on the fear new car buyers have of loosing warranty if they go elsewhere.
After having a blue with a dealer after they stuffed up a warranty work I paid a mechanic to do what should have been done in the first place.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:27

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:27
100% agree....good advice
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Reply By: nsngood - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:31

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:31
why would they seal the breathers?
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Follow Up By: nsngood - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:35

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:35
What i meant to say was why do you think they sealed the breathers. What lead you to discover that they where sealed? I am curious as it is not something that is normally done, unless holden themselves have issued a FIX of some kind?
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:44

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:44
If you have followed this long running saga you would have read that the

dealer sealed it all up to see what was happening to the oil.

What then happened was it blew a lot of seals.

This must be the biggest lemon of all time.



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Follow Up By: nsngood - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:56

Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 23:56
In that case i would be taking it directly to holden and not even bother with another holden dealer.In the game called dealerships the squeaky wheel gets the grease.And rest assured once you get state or even national managers involved it normally gets greased pretty damn quick.
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 22:57

Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 22:57
Graham H,
It might not neccessarily be the vehicle that is the complete lemon. Most cars will have a few problems of somekind & once they are sorted it may give you good service for a long time to come. (If you are willing to risk it that is)
You started with a minor oil leak & ended up with blown seals.
I tend to read into this that you are having a hard time getting a decent service out of your choice of mechanic, not your car.
Good luck
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 23:10

Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 23:10
FATSO Read the whole thread Its not my heap of whatever.

I was replying to the post above mine as the original poster didnt respond.

Click on the pic in my post and you will see what I drive
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Follow Up By: Member - Timbo - Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:07

Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:07
I'm not so sure Graham - the breathers are there for a reason: to equalise pressure changes resulting from temperature changes - as the diff, gearbox, engine heats up during use, the oil and air inside expand (but the size/volume of the enclosures: diff, gearbox, engine remain essentially the same) so breathers are needed to vent the extra pressure. Again, when the car is parked and these components cool, the oil & air contracts and the breather is again required to let more air back in to equalise the pressure. If you seal up the breathers, the next weakest link will have to perform that duty - most likely the oil seals.

I wouldn't call the car a lemon just because it follows the laws of physics, or because some mechanic doesn't know why the manufacturer spent some extra $$$ installing breathers on the diffs, gearbox and engine.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 15:54

Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 15:54
Please address your answers to Shane O as its not my vehicle only answered as he didnt answer the previous question.

I have no interest in it really.



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Reply By: Member - Ingo57 (NSW) - Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:07

Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:07
About 17 years ago I worked at Zupps holden at Mt Gravatt as a mechanic.
I have worked at a fair few dealerships and found Zupps to be a very good workshop and run really well, however this was a long time ago so things obviously must have changed.

You will find dodgy mechanics everywhere not just at dealerships like some have mentioned above.....a lot of good mechanics come from dealers.
Out of maybe 15 mechanics at a dealer you unfortunately dont get to pick who works on your car that is the worst thing about them.
The only thing you can do is keep trying different mechanics outside of dealers until you find someone your happy with or go by someone else's word of mouth.

It definitely seems like you got a lemon though!

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