Canning Stock Route

Could anybody please tell me the degree of difficulty of the CSR as a comparison with the Simpson desert French line..I have been accross the Simpson a couple of times and am considering the CSR next winter and want to make sure I am suitably prepared...thanks...
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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:54

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:54
We did it in August, South to North towing camper trailers & other than a couple of dunes, found it to be quite easy.
I am sure the conditions vary at different times.

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Follow Up By: mazcan barry - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 14:09

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 14:09
hi guys
there has been just so many comments on these threads about the extreme severeness of the corrugations on the CSR that i think it"s time a new descriptive word was applied that being HORROGATIONS what do you think ?? corrugation is to woosi cheers
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:53

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:53
Corrugations by the trillions. Its not fun any more
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:31

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:31
Yes I will second that, the corrugations seem to be getting worse every year. Almost the whole track is now badly corrugated
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Time - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:54

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:54
Did the CSR & French Line last year, Rig Road this year. CSR was an easier drive but the corrugations spoiled the trip for us. They are relentless and as mentioned above WILL break things on your vehicle. Would not bother doing the CSR again, it was not "fun".

The Simpson however, is a place I would be happy to revisit many times.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 13:42

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 13:42
The corrugations seemed not too bad, after doing the Gunbarrel first!

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 13:46

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 13:46
"The corrugations seemed not too bad, after doing the Gunbarrel first!"

I guess thats why your name is "Shaker" :-))
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:28

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:28
flaps,

How hard is the Canning Stock Route? That will depend on a lot of factors.

You have crossed the Simpson a couple of times, but you have not said what type of vehicle you used to cross the desert, were you in a convey or did you do a solo trip?
How hard did you find the Simpson crossing for the first time?

Getting ready and preparing for the CSR is longest and hardest part of the trip. There are plenty of articles on this site and heaps of books that should be read before you start the trip.

The track is not hard to drive, but it is hard on vehicles and there is a good chance that something on your vehicle might break.

Wayne



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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 13:57

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 13:57
Just to add to the above:
You'll probably carry a bit more weight on the Canning - fuel and supplies.Water is obtainable on the Canning.
The approaches to the dunes on the Canning are often not straight - often have a turn at the bottom.
The dunes of both get scalloped from people struggling up dunes. Keep your pressures very low and you'll travel easier. The low pressures also help to stop your vehicle rattling to pieces on the corrugations.
You can pull out of the Canning at the Pilbara or Gary Junction Rd of you need to.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 17:49

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 17:49
As others have said the corrugations are truly horrogations - even when you know they are going to be bad they turn out to be even worse. They rattle both your vehicle and your whole body and brain. And this goes on for at a minimum 2 or 3 weeks if you do the whole lot - unlike the Simpson which you get get across in a few days. Mental preparation is probably just as important as vehicle preparation, and being really prepared for something to break. The question I would ask is - why do you want to drive the Canning? It is hard work and not much fun. Have a look at our Canning blog.

Cheers,

Val
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 17:57

Saturday, Oct 17, 2009 at 17:57
Surely corrugations are a small price to pay for the privilege of being able to travel across such a scenic & diverse area of the Western Australian deserts?

To be honest, we didn't find it hard work at all, just bloody hot!



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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Sunday, Oct 18, 2009 at 04:23

Sunday, Oct 18, 2009 at 04:23
flaps
If you have done the Simpson, then you will find the Canning slightly easier. We did it towing our Track Shak CT and never really had any problems, except for the collateral damage, that you get when tackling such an isolated track.

Mind you that's not to say that we took it for granted, as we did a very thorough preparation, and took heaps of spares, as you should do.
We grossed 4.7 tonnes, and ran 12 psi front, 15 psi rear, and 12 psi in the camper, (all hot temps) and basically waddled up the duned. I had a couple of "stuff up's", tackling dunes, but it's not because they are all that big, the problem was between the steering wheel and the seat, ie driver not selecting the right gear, or range.
At those tyre pressures, and low speeds, corrugations seemed to melt away, but the others are basically right about the corrugations, they seem to be the full length, but that's part of the fun.

You will find that you do not need those rediculous "jumbo jet run up's" either. We took a couple of them, only to find out that momentum was lost as we crossed back onto the original track. Just select the right gear and range and go for it, from the bottom.

Cheers
Bucky
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Sunday, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:27

Sunday, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:27
Pretty much all said. Good fun with some horror stretches of corrugations. Have a read of this;


CSR Wells 40 down to 36


and this


CSR Well 36 down to 33


and watch this;





Might give you an idea of what to expect.

Cheers Mick
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Reply By: Steve63 - Monday, Oct 19, 2009 at 14:07

Monday, Oct 19, 2009 at 14:07
The Simpson is a bit of a sprint. The CSR is a marathon. The CSR is techniquely easier but its remoteness and the length of time required complicates the trip. A lot of people find the CSR wears them down, it is a long way and there is no hurring things. Preperation is probaly more important on the CSR, not that you should take the Simpson lightly. The CSR can be very rough and you must travel at speeds suitable to the conditions not your timetable. Broken shocks are reasonably common on the CSR.

Steve
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