100HDJ Turbo how many Ks are to many

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 17:20
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Was looking at buying and import but the advise from the forum has changed my mind. Now looking for local model. How many K's are to many when considering which to buy, eg. is 200K with good records to much to start towing a 2.8 t van around oz
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Reply By: Tenpounder (SA) - Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 17:34

Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 17:34
Hi there. I sympathise with your dilemma. Our Prado has just hit 210,000 km, and the big question is how much life is there left before big things happen!
For both of us, if the vehicle has done 200,000 km and then you do some serious touring, it won't be any time before you've got 300,000 on the clock.
In our case, the true value of the Prado (98 model) is quite low, so we haven't got much to lose by just driving on until it breaks (or am I just kidding myself?), but I'm not at all sure I'd like to be shelling out serious bikkies on a vehicle that's 10 years old and with 200,000 km on the clock.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 21:53

Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 21:53
When I was looking to buy a prado, there where heaps with 200000ks plus and they still wanted top dollar. The ones with 300000ks plus where worth only $8000 to $12000.
Is yours a diesel or petrol. Only issue with the diesel is the head which is only about $2000.rest should last 400000ks. Petrol motors also seem to do 400000ks if well serviced.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Tenpounder (SA) - Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 23:30

Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 23:30
Hi Pete. I hope you are right: another 100,000 km or better would be really nice!! Better still another 200,000 km!! Ours is a petrol engine (manual trans) and it is going in for a clutch job this week, but generally it has been disgustingly trouble-free.
I would hope that the real Landcruiser will be better still, and my point was really that you'll probably have to pay $35,000 for a good LC 100 with 200,000, but still be buying a vehicle with quite a bit of age under its belt. I'm certainly not bagging the LC.
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Reply By: Patrol22 - Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 19:15

Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 19:15
Face a similar issue just before last Christmas. My GU patrol needed an engine rebuild and the estimate was around $15K.....when I thought about it if I spent the money I was still left with a 10 year old vehicle with 300000km on the clock......in the end I went for a new truck. Have I done the right thing? Well so far so good but ask me again in a year or so and the answer may well be different.
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Reply By: Member - David K (VIC) - Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 19:20

Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 19:20
Hi Box Hill Bill, If you haven't visited it already I suggest you visit and join the following Land Cruiser Owners On Line http://www.lcool.org. Its an excellent site with plenty of helpful members. Join, do a search and if you dont find anything ask the question.
Hope that helps.
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 19:23

Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 19:23
Well Im doimg exactky that but in a 2005 with 120000 on it At the rate we are going will hit 150000 before we get home.


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Reply By: Max10 - Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 21:23

Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 21:23
If the import has low milage whats the problem?? All non Australian manufactured cars are imports in the beginning. Who cares if it did its first 100,oooKms in another country. If its a Japanese import its probably in much better condition than an Australian driven cars. There is hardly a rough road in Japan and all cars over a certain age need annual government checking. Chances are that it is probably a great vehicle. Most diesels there are 24 volts which is a heap better than 12 volt. You can buy all globes and lights here as nearly every truck in Oz is 24 volt.

Most of the people on this forum who bag imports have probably never owned one.

If you are saving a lot of cash id go the import any day. I bet the Japs look after their cars better than anyone in WA or QLD.
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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 22:26

Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 22:26
Since when could you import 100 series landcruisers?
AFAIK all imports ceased a few years back,unless you have owned it while living overseas for 12 months.

The only vehicles that are easy to import are ones not sold new in Australia,although many slip through as they are badged differently in other markets
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 22:45

Tuesday, Oct 20, 2009 at 22:45
dont they have to be over 15 years old now to import except under certain circumstance?
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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 00:01

Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 00:01
Some do ,some dont,but Landcruisers are not able to be imported at all.
This is a list of vehicles that can be imported

http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/sevsindex.htm
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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 00:03

Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 00:03
Mini Minors were approved a few months back but are not on the list yet.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 00:47

Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 00:47
To MAx10

Whatever gives you the idea that Japanese cars are looked after better than here.

I would strongly dispute that after having SEVERAL imports in my days in NZ.

First one a 1984 Toyota Corona ST150 ( not used here)

Supposedly had 68,000k on it..HA HA

AT the time nearly all imports had between 55,000-70,000k on them.

Turned out that they were wound back anything up to 100,000k

Second one was a Toyota Hiace 2.4 diesel van Went Ok but at 80,000 the

tranny was stuffed. 80,000?????????

also took some panels off under floor and was full of sand.????????

Third one was another Toyota ( good cars Im told)

ST 170 2 ltr diesel Supposedly had 58,000k on it.

When I removed glovebox I found a logbook page 4 years old that had 4,000k

more on it than the car had done when I got it.

Motor gave up in 12 months with highest compression of 290lb.

Got a s/h Motor which had 425lb.

Lastly (I know I should have learnt)t bought a 2.0 ltr V6 Mitsubishi Eterna
Tranny was a bit rough 6 weeks later stripped it and clutches were so thin you

could see thru them Drums in tranny were nearly worn thru.

Think Mr tard aass san must have sat at lights with feet on both pedals

Another guy bought a similar mitsi and gave it to his wife for 6 months, went

Ok so put it on as a taxi and it lasted 3 months.

Several dealers got into serious trouble over imports having odos wound back.

So now tell me imports are well looked after.

They have to get almost stripped after a certain time or 60,000k so they just

drive them and dump them at that Oil is like syrup, never been changed they

dont look after the insides either They are worth nothing.

When they started importing them into NZ they were buying them for $800

and selling them for over $10,000.

A friend of mine had a son working over there buying cars and cutting them

up and sending containers of parts back to NZ

He got a really nice Skyline for under $2000 and sent it back with parts all

around it and got it in OK

Was worth about $12,00-$15000 in NZ

My experience with imports

They have cleaned up the industry somewhat but the cars are not a lot better in some cases





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Reply By: Dan - Yal - Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:18

Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:18
Hey Bill,
we started our trip around Oz with about 300,000 on the clock of the 80 series TD. 35,000km later we got home without any mechanical dramas at all - none. We spent plenty of time off road too. The cruiser had been well serviced all its life and we continued with oil and filter changes every 5,000km.
I wouldnt think twice about doing the trip in a TD 100 series that only had 200K on the clock, especially if it had been looked after reasonably well.
The best thing about these deisels is that they last forever. Everyone raves about the fuel economy but that is a minor bonus in comparison to the longevity and reliability of these motors.
Get your 200K cruiser and go for it.

Dan
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Reply By: Bazza - Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 14:35

Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009 at 14:35
In my opinion, it depends on the particular vehicle. I've just sold a 2003 GXL Prado with 225,000 k on it. As the original owner, I've had it log book serviced every 10,000k since new. It was my drive to work at back that put the K's on it. It still looked and drove like new, and I'd be very comfortable in doing another 200,000k in it. The only reason I sold it was because it had reached it's maximum allowed lease time ( 6 years ).
It all depends on how well their looked after.

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Follow Up By: Box Hill Bill- Thursday, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:46

Thursday, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:46
Thanks guys for your comments and advise. Looking at a unit with a little more K's does open up the field some what. I checked last night and there was 13 for sale around oz in the $30k to 50k range on carsales. May have to travel but will be worth it in the end. See you on the road. Cheers Bill
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