Tire Pressures

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Evening All. I am just wondering about tire pressures. I have just re-shod the Xtrail with Yokahama A/ts after the Continentals went to Tire Heaven and they were replaced via warranty, after the trip to Cape York. Just 8000 kms.
My local B Jane Manager told me to run them at 38 psi. Nissan say's 32 back, 34 front. I was just wondering if, this high pressure will affect the tires, like ware in the center and not across the whole tire face. If I drop the pressures down, I notice that the tire look very buldgie. I have never had tire pressures that high before...... Steve. B...

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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 20:33

Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 20:33
Whats it say on the side of the tyre so far as maximum pressures??

Probably be something much higher than 38 psi particularly if they are light truck tyres??

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Reply By: Outbacktourer - Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 20:33

Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 20:33
4psi the sticker recommendation is generally a good place to start. Measure the contact patch (ruler behind and in front horizontally, measure space between) and adjust pressures so they are same front to rear. These tyres should be able to take at least 60 at maximum load so you have nothing to worry about.

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Follow Up By: Member - steveinoz (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 20:48

Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 20:48
Thanks for those two reply's. My concern was that, as I have a tire warranty, ( Damage prior to 75% ware, tires are replaced, no cost. 50% ware, negotiable 60/40. I notice that the Xtrail it a lot more stable with 38 psi. when I ran them at 32F/34R. I'll watch the ware factor over the next few week.

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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:02

Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:02
Hi Steve,

If you intend on rotating them regularly then you are probably not far off that with the k's on them so talk to the tire shop at this time about how they are wearing. I have no doubt the a/t's will be fine at 38psi but as to how they will wear at that pressure depends heaps on so many variables like load, road surface, aggressive driving style or not ect ect so it boils down to going with averages and keeping a close eye on them and changing things at the first sign of trouble. I run 40psi in the Patrols and add a bit more when towing the van (generally go to about 44psi), no hard and fast reason why but it has worked well for me over many sets of tyres so I will stick with this until I see problems and adjust accordingly.

Cheers, Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony Z (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:09

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:09
On a recent 4x4 trek I was given a tip on tyre pressure's
1st start at what the tyre shop said and drive around for a while to heat the tyre then check pressure again if it's gone up from say 34 to 40/42 or higher then again, when tyre is cold up the pressure a few psi/kpa and do it again till you can drive around and the pressure in tyre does not rise and stays constant you now know that the sidewalls are not working hard and creating heat build up. Has also worked on the small town runabout and daughters car as well.
Just a tip has worked so far for me I run Bridgestone Duellers LT AT and in 15000k with front to back rotations at 5000 intervals there is only a small amount of tread wear 2-3mm and in 10000 outback travels no punctures!!
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Follow Up By: Horacehighroller - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:07

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:07
Tony Z, I find your post a little confusing.

When you say
"do it again till you can drive around and the pressure in tyre does not rise and stays constant"

do you mean that you add a little bit (2psi??) when cold and then check the "hot" temp, and repeat that proceedure over time until the "hot" temp is no greater than on the previous test?
If so I will try that and compare to my current proceedure which is to run the tyres at a pressure whereby the "hot" temp is 4psi more than the "cold" temp.

(In other words if temp from cold increases by more than 4psi then increase cold temp.)

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony Z (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 03:53

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 03:53
Sorry about the wording but yes what you assume is correct.
You repeat the cold press. to heated pres. checks as you say by adding 2psi each time untill to cold press. and heated pres. are the same ( no rise in pres)
try it it works!
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Reply By: Ray - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:04

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:04
Try taking the TIRES off and fitting some TYRES
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Follow Up By: Horacehighroller - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:08

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:08
He's too "tired" to do that!

Peter
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Reply By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:30

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:30
The tyre guys in the city always recommend and put high pressure in. If you drive a light car like an xtrail with the pressure in the high 30's on corrugated/gravel roads then odds are you will get a bulge in the side wall especially if the profile is on the lowish side. It happened to me last trip to the centre in my Freelander 2 which is a comparable size/weight. The garage out there at Oodnadatta told me so (Mt Dare did too). They both recommended mid 20's on gravel/corrugations, lower for lighter cars. The big forbies like Cruisers and Patrols can handle higher pressures and need them to carry the weight. Also, the tyre construction for the big cars is way heavier in the side wall.
Personally, I don't like the ride on tyres inflated up high. My old 98 Pathfinder had Uniroyal Laredos on and I got 100,000+ kms out of them running at 28psi everywhere including town so any argument about low pressure and reduced mileage is lost on me. Perhaps you pay for comfort a little in fuel economy but it doesn't seem to change too much in my experience. Also, I think high pressure tends to shake and rattle bits and pieces off the car. Around town I now stick to manufacturer spec or a fraction lower, but thats my preference because I prefer to back a design engineer over a tyre fitter and it fits with my comfort factor. At the end of the day I reckon its a Ford/Holden argument with advantages and disadvantages to both schools of thought.

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony Z (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 04:00

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 04:00
You can go on The Pink Roadhouse web site and down load the tyre pres. sheet that they hand out for free at the road house.
When we were out there we ran 26 front 24 rear worked ok for us in 2008 Pajero towing Camper Trailer
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:38

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:38
Coopers put out a 4WD Drivers Guide about Tyres & might be worth you getting a copy from your local tyre dealer.

In it they refer to the "4PSI" Rule & the rule applies to bitumen road use only.
It states: For passenger tyres inflate your cold tyres to the recomended pressure on your vehicles tyre placard. Drive for at least 20-30 minutes to ensure they have reached operating temperature & then check the pressures again. Idealy, they should be about 4PSI above cold pressure. If pressure is more than 4PSI above cold pressure, add more air.

Conversely, if they are less than 4PSI above cold pressure then the cold pressure is to high.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 03:40

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 03:40
Steveinoz

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