11th/11th Lest We Forget

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Today is a special day, Don't forget.

A few weeks ago I posted a link to a demo of a webpage I was working on, now after about 4 months I have it listed , if any members have a relative in Adelaide River War Cemetery you will find it HERE


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Reply By: Top End Explorer - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:56

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:56
G/day Doug.

Yes I always stop for a minutes silence no matter what today.

I was also on the steps of Parliament house that infamous day in 1975 when Gough was sacked, we were on a school exertion when we got a bit more of a political lesson than the teacher expected.

As Ned Kelly said Such is life, as he was hung today in 1880.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Karen & Geoff - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:12

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:12
Doug you are so right, it is a very special day. And it annoys me those people who dont stop for 1 minute at 11am. And so many people choose not too!
Its hard not to shed a tear today, today and ANZAC Day, I always struggle with.

Karen
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Reply By: Member - Timbo - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:35

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:35
Thanks Doug, Lest We Forget those who gave their lives (or husbands, fathers, brothers, mates etc.) to fight for the freedoms that we enjoy every day. And Lest We Forget who/what they were fighting against.
I fear that most Australians take our unique freedoms for granted and are prone to giving them up too easily.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 15:50

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 15:50
Doug, Mrs Bush and I were actually in the Gulgong Museum today at 11am when the bugle sounded.

We were looking at a display about all the locals who went to various wars and never came back.

Made it all the more poignant.

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:44

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:44
They shall no longer grow old.......

These six words chill me to my boines when I think of my two children lost in a car accident, they ring so true in the ears of parents who lost their loved ones in battle for the greater good. It still goes on and so do I.

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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 20:54

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 20:54
Geoff,

I'll never even pretend to understand how you feel.

The nearest I can get to it is a discussion I had with a School Teacher, Dally Messenger.

Dally was having a chat with another School Teacher, at our school, old Harry Corneliusen.

Harry happened to to tell Dally he had lost a 16 year child many, many, years back.

Dally said "That must have taken a long time to get over"

Harry "You never get over it".

Harry was my football coach in form 1 and my Maths Teacher in form 6. An amazingly tough yet compassionate man. Everybody who was taught by him loved him. He taught me last in 1979 and I still think of him.

You'd have liked Harry a lot, he's a lot like you.

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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 23:02

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 23:02
G/day Bonz and Jim.

Year I'm back, can I share this with you guy's ?

My 7 year old came home from school today, he asked if I had had a 1 minute silence today and I told him yes I did, I said what about you? he told me that they did, and that they had leaned why.

He then showed me a piece of paper that had a picture of a war scene, the title was Thoughts of War.

Underneath was a question from the teacher, she had asked.

Imagine for a moment you are in this picture what are your thoughts ?

Philip wrote and I quote : If it was me in the picture I would feel angry, scared, sad, proud and nervous.

I asked him about his answers and I quote :

Angry because wars shouldn't happen.

Scared because at war people shoot each other.

Sad because innocent people die.

Proud because we will fight together to be free.

Nervous because we don't know what will happen.

As he walked away to play I had a tear in my eye's.

Cheers Steve
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Follow Up By: Karen & Geoff - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:33

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:33
WOW Steve, that is so moving and especially from a 7 year old. How could you not have a tear in your eye. Do you know the sad thing though, ask some 17 or 27 year old's and they would not know what the 11of the 11th at 11am was for.

You give your little man a pat on the back! Now I have a tear in the eye.

Karen
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 14:25

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 14:25
To be that wise at the age of 7 Steve, I think your young bloke has been on this earth before.
Great story
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 18:39

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 18:39
Steve, that is very special.
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 20:31

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 20:31
Steve,

If there are but a few children with that thought process, we are in good stead. The future is not bleak.

I'd suggest he didn't mysteriuosly get so smart, Anja and yourself have obviously raised and influenced him properly.

Well done.

BTW, my Son's Girlfriend has finished her thesis on Aboriginal Tasmania. A fine document, if you would like to read it send me your email address (you'll find it on our website www.bestoffroad.net.au ) and I'll send it to you.

Regards,

Jim.

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Reply By: Member - Mary W NW VIC - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:56

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:56
Thanks Doug,
The gathering at Red Cliffs Vic gets smaller each year.Thanks for the link l found a relative
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Reply By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 18:15

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 18:15
Very special day indeed.

Lest We Forget

Interesting how there are more views and replies to the Canning stock route/trailers thread then this. bleep poor i think.

Well Done putting that together Doug.
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 18:28

Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 18:28
Thanks Doug, for that post, we all need to stop & reflect & whilst I must admit that at 11AM this morning, I did not do so. Not out of disrespect but I simply forgot at that precise time, and I suppose ,in a way, forgetting is a form of disrespect. I made up for it a short time later.

In 1993 I had the privilege of spending a few hours at the Adelaide River War Cemetery & it was at that time that it hit for the first time just hour many lives were lost on Australian soil in WW2.

In the not to distant future, I intend to take my wife to visit this sacred site & I would suggest to other Aussies, if they have not yet visited this War Cemetery, that they make an effort to do so. They will be touched by its significance and the sacrifice made on our behalf by our fellow countrymen and women.
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Follow Up By: Karen & Geoff - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:37

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:37
Barry, you might not have stopped at 11am for a minutes silence, but I bet you thought of all those Diggers alot through the day. I missed the 11am minutes silence about 3 years ago, I was busy and forgot to look at the time (I had been watching the clock all morning) and I was so cranky with myself. My Mum and Dad would have turned in their grave to know I missed it. Dad would have been beside himself and so ashamed of me. Oops sorry Dad!
I felt really bad that I missed it, but I still had a minute's silence about 10 past 11, when I realised the time, I was just a bit later than everyione else.

Karen
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:46

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:46
The Anzac on the Wall


I wandered thru a country town 'cos I had time to spare,
And went into an antique shop to see what was in there.
Old Bikes and pumps and kero lamps, but hidden by it all,
A photo of a soldier boy - an Anzac on the Wall.

"The Anzac have a name?" I asked. The old man answered "No,.
The ones who could have told me mate, have passed on long ago.
The old man kept on talking and, according to his tale,
The photo was unwanted junk bought from a clearance sale.

"I asked around," the old man said, "but no one knows his face,
He's been on that wall twenty years, deserves a better place.
For some one must have loved him so, it seems a shame somehow."
I nodded in agreement and then said, "I'll take him now."

My nameless digger's photo, well it was a sorry sight
A cracked glass pane and a broken frame - I had to make it right
To prise the photo from its frame I took care just in case,
"Cause only sticky paper held the cardboard back in place.

I peeled away the faded screed and much to my surprise,
Two letters and a telegram appeared before my eyes
The first reveals my Anzac's name, and regiment of course
John Mathew Francis Stuart - of Australia's own Light Horse.

This letter written from the front, my interest now was keen
This note was dated August seventh 1917
"Dear Mum, I'm at Khalasa Springs not far from the Red Sea
They say it's in the Bible - looks like Billabong to me.

"My Kathy wrote I'm in her prayers she's still my bride to be
I just cant wait to see you both you're all the world to me
And Mum you'll soon meet Bluey, last month they shipped him out
I told him to call on you when he's up and about."

"That bluey is a larrikin, and we all thought it funny
He lobbed a Turkish hand grenade into the Co's dunny.
I told you how he dragged me wounded in from no man's land
He stopped the bleeding closed the wound with only his bare hand."

"Then he copped it at the front from some stray shrapnel blast
It was my turn to drag him in and I thought he wouldn't last
He woke up in hospital, and nearly lost his mind
Cause out there on the battlefield he'd left one leg behind."

"He's been in a bad way mum, he knows he'll ride no more
Like me he loves a horse's back he was a champ before.
So Please Mum can you take him in, he's been like my brother
Raised in a Queensland orphanage he' s never known a mother."

But Struth, I miss Australia mum, and in my mind each day
I am a mountain cattleman on high plains far away
I'm mustering white-faced cattle, with no camel's hump in sight
And I waltz my Matilda by a campfire every night

I wonder who rides Billy, I heard the pub burnt down
I'll always love you and please say hooroo to all in town".
The second letter I could see was in a lady's hand
An answer to her soldier son there in a foreign land

Her copperplate was perfect, the pages neat and clean
It bore the date November 3rd 1917.
"T'was hard enough to lose your Dad, without you at the war
I'd hoped you would be home by now - each day I miss you more"

"Your Kathy calls around a lot since you have been away
To share with me her hopes and dreams about your wedding day
And Bluey has arrived - and what a godsend he has been
We talked and laughed for days about the things you've done and seen"

"He really is a comfort, and works hard around the farm,
I read the same hope in his eyes that you wont come to harm.
Mc Connell's kids rode Billy, but suddenly that changed
We had a violent lightning storm, and it was really strange."
"Last Wednesday just on midnight, not a single cloud in sight
It raged for several minutes, it gave us all a fright
It really spooked your Billy - and he screamed and bucked and reared
And then he rushed the sliprail fence, which by a foot he cleared"

"They brought him back next afternoon, but something's changed I fear
It's like the day you brought him home, for no one can get near
Remember when you caught him with his black and flowing mane?
Now Horse breakers fear the beast that only you can tame,"
"That's why we need you home son" - then the flow of ink went dry-
This letter was unfinished, and I couldn't work out why.
Until I started reading the letter number three
A yellow telegram delivered news of tragedy
Her son killed in action - oh - what pain that must have been
The Same date as her letter - 3rd November 17
This letter which was never sent, became then one of three
She sealed behind the photo's face - the face she longed to see.

And John's home town's old timers -children when he went to war
Would say no greater cattleman had left the town before.
They knew his widowed mother well - and with respect did tell
How when she lost her only boy she lost her mind as well.
She could not face the awful truth, to strangers she would speak
"My Johnny's at the war you know , he's coming home next week."
They all remembered Bluey he stayed on to the end
A younger man with wooden leg became her closest friend

And he would go and find her when she wandered old and weak
And always softly say "yes dear - John will be home next week."
Then when she died Bluey moved on, to Queensland some did say
I tried to find out where he went, but dont know to this day
And Kathy never wed - a lonely spinster some found odd
She wouldn't set foot in a church - she'd turned her back on God
John's mother left no will I learned on my detective trail
This explains my photo's journey, that clearance sale
So I continued digging cause I wanted to know more
I found John's name with thousands in the records of the war
His last ride proved his courage - a ride you will acclaim
The Light Horse Charge at Beersheba of everlasting fame

That last day in October back in 1917
At 4pm our brave boys fell - that sad fact I did glean
That's when John's life was sacrificed, the record's crystal clear
But 4pm in Beersheba is midnight over here.......
So as John's gallant sprit rose to cross the great divide
Were lightning bolts back home a signal from the other side?
Is that why Billy bolted and went racing as in pain?
Because he'd never feel his master on his back again?


Was it coincidental? same time - same day - same date?
Some proof of numerology, or just a quirk of fate?
I think it's more than that, you know, as I've heard wiser men,
Acknowledge there are many things that go beyond our ken

Where craggy peaks guard secrets neath dark skies torn asunder
Where hoofbeats are companions to the rolling waves of thunder
Where lightning cracks like 303's and ricochets again
Where howling moaning gusts of wind sound just like dying men
Some Mountain cattlemen have sworn on lonely alpine track
They've glimpsed a huge black stallion - Light Horseman on his back.

Yes Sceptics say, it's swirling clouds just forming apparitions
Oh no, my friend you cant dismiss all this as superstition
The desert of Beersheba - or windswept Aussie range
John Stuart rides forever there - Now I dont find that strange.
Now some gaze at this photo, and they often question me
And I tell them a small white lie, and say he's family.
"You must be proud of him." they say - I tell them, one and all,
That's why he takes the pride of place - my Anzac on the Wall.



Lest We Forget.

Fred.
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Follow Up By: Karen & Geoff - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:10

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:10
Fred, that poem is unbelievable. I have read about the ANZAC on the wall before, but never the whole poem.

Karen
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 18:36

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 18:36
Pretty hard not to get choked up reading that, aye Karen. It was circulated within my RSL fraternity some time ago.

Fred.
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Reply By: Nargun51 - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:32

Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:32
Many years ago (on an infamous long service leave trip around Europe) I managed to convince my wife to detour through Ypres and Paschendale. We passed and stopped at a cemetery signposted as an Australian War Cemetery

There was row upon row of crosses; each one carved with the Rising Sun insignia.

I felt very Australian and very, very humble
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