The best Shocks and steering damper
Submitted: Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 20:10
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Jethro T
Can anyone recommend some new Shocks and Steering damper for an 80 series.
I'm setting up for a trip to the cape and was also considering a return to centre steering damper. Are they worthwhile with a 2 inch lift and standard tyres.
Regards
Geoff
Reply By: On Patrol & TONI - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 20:19
Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 20:19
Geoff
it is hard to better the Bilstein gas shocks in most situations, the Cape trip can be very heavily corrugated and it is here the Bilsteins shine.
Mine are as smooth as they get under those conditions, most speeds are their "sweet speed".
As for the RTC damper with a mild lift of 2" it is purely a matter of choice not necessity.
The Bilsteins are not cheap, but they do have a lifetime warranty, that means just that.
Cheers Colin.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 23:27
Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 23:27
Colin,
Are you sure about the lifetime warranty?
A friend had to throw away his Bilsteins 2 weeks ago because both rear shocks on his 100series were leaking. This was after 18months and 30,000k of normal 4wding. Bilsteins were approached for warranty and they refused, saying they only had 12 months warranty on their shocks.
Cheers
phil
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Reply By: Robnicko - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 20:43
Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 20:43
I've got Old man Emu all round in my 80 and it's great.
Been in for 9 years and still going strong.
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Follow Up By: Member - Vic S (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 21:58
Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 21:58
Check out monroe magnums I have used them on a 60 series and a Patrol and now on a Jeep they are cheaper than Old Man and come out of the same plant !! Repco do a good price on them.
Vic
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Reply By: Member - Greg T1 (QLD) - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 21:24
Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 21:24
I ran Pedders foam cell shocks for years on my NH Pajero and could not fault them.
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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA) - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 22:28
Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 22:28
Pedders foam cell for me as
well, had them put on the Patrol just before we went to the Cape in July...Have sold the Patrol now but will be putting them on the Prado very soon....
Pedders steering damper as
well
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Reply By: Crackles - Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 23:06
Thursday, Nov 12, 2009 at 23:06
Funny how everyone recommends the brand they use :-)
Fox shocks I reckon are the best. Race quality.
Bilsteins have excellent performance although can be a little firm for some.
Koni are extremely reliable. Last for ages & rebuildable.
Procomp have the best big
bore shock for a reasonable price.
OME are pretty average. (Couldn't give me a set)
Return to centre steering dampers are generally a waste of money & fitted because they look good. That's why they usually paint them
bright colors.
Cheers Craig..................
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Reply By: stevesub - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 08:02
Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 08:02
I used to use Bilstiens in my old rally car. Bought them second hand of un-known vintage, used then for 15 years and something like 150 events and they were still Ok when I gave the car to my son. At the same time I bought new Pedders for the rear - still OK when the boy got the car.
We are still using the shocks that came with the Troopy which are still Ok and working fine after 240,000km - but we have not done
Cape York and will be considering alternatives when we do this trip in a year or so's time.
Stevesub
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:19
Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:19
I use Koni and find them great
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:44
Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:44
Never liked the idea of hit & miss with shocks so I have just got my second set of Tough Dog adjustables 40mm
bore $199 each.
The ability to change the setting in a few seconds is a winner with me and I do this a bit when heading bush.
They do wear out and to a degree you can compenstate , my previous set lasted about 80k before the hardest setting was to soft and I got new ones.
Nothing failed though.
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Follow Up By: GregF - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 13:57
Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 13:57
Ditto to that.
I Have Tough Dog Ralph shockies on my 105 Series same as my damper, It also has 2inch lift kit in it and caster kit installed. There are poly air bags in the rear.
Iam more than happy with both handling and carrying capacity
I dont know what it is all worth as it was all installed when I purchased the second hand vehicle Great offroad and on.
Regards
Greg
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 15:01
Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 15:01
I have OME in my 80 only because thats what it had in it when I bought it.
I am a fan of Koni in live axle vehicles and when the OME wear out Koni's will be going in.
I have also found EFS extremely competitive in price and performance.
Scott
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Reply By: Mrbrush - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 22:55
Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 22:55
I got a Pro-Comp steer Damper, and put it on then turned the wheel a few times and it started leaking immediately. Took it off straight away, put the old one back on. Got a replacement and it only lasted 18 months.
"Made in Mexico" rubbish.
Now Ive gone Rancho.
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Reply By: ian - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 23:59
Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 23:59
Geoff,
I am no expert, but my Konis have done 90,000 kms of very demanding work on my 80 series.
One recently had a slight leak. Koni rebuilt it for no charge.
Since I fitted them koni have brought out a bigger and better shocker, but
mine are still very sweet. No complaints at all. My mechanic
shop advised me at the time
1/ koni
2/ bilstein
3/ forget it.
ian
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 17:15
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 17:15
Hi Jethro T,
Series question; What's wrong with using Mr Toyota's shock absorbers ?
KK
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 18:40
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 18:40
KK,
Main issue for me is that they are not long travel.
But when it comes to quality, and reliability, they are great. Made in Japan - Tokico is the brand. And a few years back they were about $70 each - not sure of the price now. Most of my desert kms have been on genuine shocks, and most of the problems I see are with aftermarket shocks.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 19:27
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 19:27
Oops, 'serious' not series :-))
Phil, I could not agree more about the after market shocks not having the life of the original equipment. Longer travel required- fair enough. Mt Troopy now has 300,000 km and I am quite happy with the original shocks.
KK
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Follow Up By: Jethro T - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 20:45
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 20:45
I never gave them a thought, just assumed they would be expensive. I'll speak to toyota and see if they will handle the 2 inch lift.
Regards
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Reply By: Tony @ Naomi - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:41
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:41
Interesting thread as I have to have new shocks fitted what are EFS or Iron man like.
Thanks, Tony
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Reply By: Outa Bounds - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 20:26
Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 20:26
We had OME on our '91 80 series, but she was fairly weighty (draws, dual wheel carrier, bull bar, winch etc etc) and we found the shockies were failing too soon even with just your standard bitumen driving. We then went to full Tough Dog (with the Big
Bore shocks) and after that it was great. Actually I think the
suspension did pretty
well considering the weight which we found was borderline when we moved to WA!
On a Hilux which we purchased some time afterwareds we had EFS
suspension, initially it seemed much better than the original
suspension which was beat, but after a while I didin't think much of the ride, however it would have to be noted that the lux had an alloy tray and generally carried no weight (but still the
suspension wasn't the heaviest rated, it was to suit the car).
In summary I think I'd go with Tough Dog again, particularly when Hubby eventually has enough $$ to upgrade the stock
suspension on his 79 series. And if your 80 has a few accessories it would be good to check out her weight too. Ours was close to illegal here in WA but the inspector said that the big
bore shocks gave it sag and handling as it should have, I imagine for lighter cars it could translate to a pretty rough ride though!
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