Boat flares
Submitted: Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 18:56
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Member - Murray R (VIC)
Does anyone carry flares in their kit when travelling in land as a means for emergency position sighting if broken down or an accident, weather it be in the bush or desert. They would alot easier to see then a stranded vehicle from the air and even in hilly bush country. Any thoughts
Murray
Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 19:47
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 19:47
Hi Murray,
Some one would have to be close by, actively looking for you and also looking in your direction for a flare to be of any use. Flares are not all that good (from the air) during daytime and they have a limited service life. Better off having a sat phone that works.
KK
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Follow Up By: Rolly - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 20:02
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 20:02
Maroons are terrific bushfire starters, but.
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Reply By: guy007 - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 20:14
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 20:14
A very sensible idea.Being an old boatie I always carry a kit of out of date smoke flares and the occasional parachute flare and a V sheet.If stored correctly and safely could be a great asset in pinpointing your position when in trouble in the bush or desert and you know that help is not too far away. Beats spelling out HELP in rocks!!!The new EPIRBs which can broadcast your exact GPS position are now a must and a SPOT Messenger sounds good.There are some great deals and Govt subsidies on Satellite phones if you spend at least 120 days each year out of mobile range or if you have no mobile coverage at home.Otherwise its worth hiring.
Cheers
Guy
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Follow Up By: rescue134 - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 21:01
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 21:01
i Carrie an out of date set, they can been seen for a long way from air, even in the bush. also the red flair do start a good fire if all the wood is wet.
Kevin
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Follow Up By: age - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 21:39
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 21:39
Hi all
Re out of date flares - be careful if travelling to QLD with out of date flares - they fall under the explosives act and are deemed an (out of date and unstable) explosive with severe penalties if caught with them - insurance companies in QLD have also said they will not cover you if you are carrying them and involved in an accident with consequences from the flares.
It is a huge heated argument here in QLD, but that is categorically the law - so be warned and due to the raising of this topic on local fishing radio shows etc the Government Explosives Inspectors have low tolerance for offenders (especially after the Coroner pasted them after the school fireworks death)
Cheers
A
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Follow Up By: dbish - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 23:14
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 23:14
Unstable I dont thinkso I still have flares that date back to 1971.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 23:17
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 23:17
The law here in WA is different, as I have just passed my "Skippers ticket" tests this week, you can carry and use 'out of date' flares.
Can copy the exact text here if requested in the next few days, as it's in the front of the boat.
Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 08:00
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 08:00
Isn't Queensland where the Inpectors booked people for not having the removeable (no
tools required) third-row seats in the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:46
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:46
Would doubt that as the rule is you may not remove bolted down seats.
So Croozers are OK Patrols and 200ser technically arent.
My croozer has only 2 seats but has a blue plate to make it legal.
A cheap $60 worth
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 21:50
Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 21:50
Murray
I would say not a very good idea in spinafex country like the Kimberly as the use of flares will cause an imediate bush fire as they hit the ground which you won't be quick enough to put out without machinery.Ispeak from experience working in the Kimberly as a surveyor where we used flares to direct a dozer through the scrub on a particular bearing andmore often than not the machine had to be used to put out a spreading bush fire.This was in the eary 70's so we didn't have gps.
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 08:04
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 08:04
Orange smoke flares are good for directing aircraft in visual range towards you - unless there is tree cover.
On exercises, I've seen the smoke drift horizontally under the canopy in light Eucalypt forest, meaning a helicopter 500 metres away couldn't detect it.
In NSW Ambulances carry smoke flares to direct helicopters to their location.
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Reply By: snapper49 - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:42
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:42
A much better option is to carry your 406 epirb
details can be updated online so that it no longer attaches to your boat but vechicle instead
when your trip is finished just update details again and re attach to your boat
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Follow Up By: dbish - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 16:10
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 16:10
My marine EPIRB is registered to my boat & vehicles at the same time they are quite hapy to do this, they know were you are when the satalites pick up the signal.
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