Some advice on RAV4, CRV or Sportage

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 22:54
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After finishing our trip around oz and now back to "a normal life" we have sold our much loved cruiser and I now need a car more suited for me for work. The cruiser was not practical as I often park in undercover car parks which the cruiser doesn't fit under. I was thinking of either the Rav 4 (popular as it is still a yota), Honda CRV or the Kia Sportage. I was going to buy a normal station wagon but thought one of these might be a bit more fun on the weekend and may allow us to go a little bush (looking for the good fishing spots). I know it won't be the same as the cruiser as they are only soft roaders but better than nothing and I can justify one of these on my tax (taxman didn't think I needed a 3" lift and lockers for work LOL). I am after good and bad points for them. Looking at something around 97- 2001 models. We need to be able to tow about 1000kg occasionally. The RAV4 is my preference but the sportage has better towing capacity CRV- 1200kg Rav- 1450kg Sportage- 1800kg.
Any thoughts on good or bad would be appreciated. Only looking at spending $7000-$10000.

Thanks in advance

Josh

PS.. Yes there were some tears as the cruiser headed out the drive but the memories live on.
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Reply By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 23:19

Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 23:19
Should have said the tears were from the girls not me....
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Reply By: Member - Gizmo-Tron - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 23:26

Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 23:26
What about an X-Trail they are about the same size & 2t towing.
Saying that I had a 05 model X-Trail & a 20ft boat when when towing I didn't feel safe as the boat was a foot wider on both sides.
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 08:27

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 08:27
A nissan, what's that ??? LOL. I saw an X-Trail yesterday and thought I would have a look. Price might be a bit high though. The trailer we tow would be wider than all these vehicles as it was built for the cruiser.

Thanks for your comments

Josh
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Reply By: disco driver - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 00:29

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 00:29
Hi Josh,

Can I toss in another couple to consider, Subaru Forester and Suzuki Grand Vitara
You can get 97-00 models of either make in good order for about your top budget figure.

Of the ones on your list I would put the Sportage on top, only one with low range and has a generally good writeup as a well built vehicle.

On the offchance that you would consider one, you could buy a good Landrover DiscoveryTdi for the same money.

Hope this helps

Disco.
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:02

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:02
Thanks Disco,
Having low range in the sportage is good. I liked the extra room the sportage has in it as well. Haven't looked at the others but may be worth considering.

Thanks
Josh
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 16:03

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 16:03
If you want to tow then I would be looking for a clean Paj or Jack. You can pick up a 99 se with 100000ks for about $10000. The petrols are very reliable. They will fit under car parks with out racks. The ravs are also very reliable and long lived.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 21:34

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 21:34
Madfisher, Thanks for the comments but I am really looking for something more economical than the larger rigs. I was origanally buying a normal station wagon (ie commadore) but thought something like the Rav or sportage might give me more fun on the weekend.

Josh
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 09:37

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 09:37
Hi Josh,
yes mate go the Rav. Early sportages where known death traps. Had a work mate who clocked up 500000ks in a rav. As you know I work in the car rental industry and we get a very good run out of ravs. Only issue being rattley back doors which is easy to fix. They av about 10/100. Beauty of Tas is a bit of ground clearance (rocks) is mostly all you need to get to great camping spots.
Wish I was in Tassie now with all the lakes full.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Timbo - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 15:33

Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 15:33
Doesn't the Suzuki Grand Vitara have lo-range? And the early Foresters (which would be the only ones in the $7-10k range) also had lo-range (not sure about the newer/current ones though.
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Reply By: john&thejayco - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:25

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:25
Josh,
If you intend to tow anything at all ,you can cross the crv off your list.We had a 2003 crv and they are a great car to drive and very economical, but the allowable weight is only 50kg even though they have a towing capacity of 1400 kg.the ball weight only allows for a lightly loaded box trailer or tinny on a trailer.The chassis is very light where it joins the towbar and the couple of bolts on each side would not even be 1/2 inch. The owners manual states ,this vehicle is a passenger vehicle and not recommended as a tow vehicle.Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 21:25

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 21:25
Thanks for the comments, it confirms my thoughts that iot was a bit underated for what I what.

Josh
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Reply By: rags - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 23:04

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 23:04
Hi Josh
In my job i have been provided with a Rav 4 as a co car,and have had each model since 98 that toyota has produced always auto and currently got the current model,always the entry level model ie CV or Edge or whatever they are called at the time. [I own and use a Prado for my touring needs].
The problem with the Rav4 s are always the cost [unless your selling] like most toyotas they retain good resale value,for $7k -$10 you would be looking at a 1st series SXA 11R which has the 2lt motor that was also fitted to the camrys , celicas of the same vintage and are knowned to be very reliable, I have not towed with one as my criterea for towing includes 2 diffs and a chassis but have thought about the down sizing idea and using a rav but i would look at the new V6 current model.I'm sure that all the models would cope with a box trailer or camper trailer but i think that 1000kg would be a max.I in fact brought this SXA 11R model in a 2 door for the daughters 1st car it was hail damaged and did only cost $2700 but it has been a great car and has now got 265000 kms on it and i only replaced the cluch which i did only because i figured this would assist her as she learned to drive.The other repair was to replace the rubbers that support the rear diff as there was a bit of drive line back lash all up cost of $850 including a service.The motor does not use oil and does not leak oil.
If you could stretch the budget i would be considering the 2nd Rav4 model sold the ACA21R which arrived later in 2000 and ran until 2003/4 .This model was more refined had a new motor with a bit more kws,but you also got the now standard airbags,cruise control etc and was available in base model edge or a cruiser and at the end of model life an extreme with the usual toyota upgrades to run out a superceded model.
I think the best model toyota produced was the 2004 on ACA23R model that received the new 2.4ltr motor that is still used today in both the ravs and camry
This model still retained the compact awd size but had more power again and was the last of this smaller size but are still fetching good $ 2nd hand.
The current model ACA33R which i'm now driving are a nice car but IMO they have lost the compact size and are in fact as roomy as my 90series Prado,comfy but large ,but with the extended wheel base would be a stable car to tow a light van or similar.
I won't comment on the other makes as suggested as i have had no experience with these [only to offer the comment that at work we have been switching to the diesil Xtrails and the 2 drivers who have received these although impressed with how they perform for a 2ltr diesil they are not impress with the comfort offered in comparision to their last ACA33 RAVS and i not looking forward to the change after 10+ years of Ravs but this is what happens when someone looks at the bottom line in a fleet of cars]
Hope this helps [i do prefer toyotas]
Russ

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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 23:26

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 23:26
Thanks Russ, Some good food for thought. Now I really don't know what I'm after LOL. I don't really want to spend a lot, 10,000 is really my limit and Rav's are very hard ti find in Tassie. I will only be towing on the very odd occassion, My main reason is for work and economical driving around town.

Thanks
Josh
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Follow Up By: IanM (Vic) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 13:07

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 13:07
Josh

We had a Sportage for 18 months and were more than happy with it - economical to run and quite capable off road. Fitted with AT tyres we had 240mm clearance, it has decent low range and if you get a year 2000 model a reasonable amount of room for camping gear.
Ours towed an off road camper form Melbourne to To Groggin, via the Barry Way with no drama - pretty slow on hills with lots of first and second gear work, but the temperature gauge did not move.
Lack of grunt is the reason we moved to a Pajero, but I imagine that all your options would have a similar problem.
Happy to answer any other questions you may have, good luck with your decision.
IanM
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Reply By: stevie1947 - Wednesday, Nov 25, 2009 at 20:35

Wednesday, Nov 25, 2009 at 20:35
why not look at a 2000/2002 pathfinder. Great 4x4 with good off road cabablilities with a stationwagon like feel. 6 cylinder engine can be a little thirsty (13/14 ltrs) but a very reliable 4by. Can get a low Klms for that money.
Steve
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Nov 25, 2009 at 21:19

Wednesday, Nov 25, 2009 at 21:19
Its important to get the first series RAV4 if you wish a little real adventure Josh, this is because it had mechanically coupled centre diff and has significantly better off road performance.

They are all good though for general stuff up until the current model which has gone backwards with a sense and connect operation.






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