New Towing Laws

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 17:11
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Hi All.

Just heard on the radio that new regulation now apply to Caravan towing.

When towing a Caravan on the open road you must keep at least 60 metres between your vehicle and a heavy vehicle. The does not apply in built up areas though.

Where there is a continuous white line on the left of the carriageways, you are now allowed to pull over onto the hard shoulder and let other vehicles pass.

It did not say weather this was Australia wide or just in NSW or if it applies to Camper/box trailers. Any comments. Steve. B...

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Reply By: Member - DW (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 18:38

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 18:38
Hi all

I am led to believe that to cross an unbroken line on any road is an offence.

However, from the current NSW RTA Road Users Hanbook, page 104:

"You may drive on, across or outside edge lines for up to 100 metres only if you
are:
• Stopping.
• Overtaking on the inside of vehicles turning right or,
in a one way street, overtaking vehicles turning left.
• Turning off or onto the road by the shortest route.
• Turning left or right at intersections.
• Driving a slow moving vehicle."

Sloppy driving, that we often see, where a vehicle drifts over the left outside edge line can be an offence.

There is no mention of this item on the NSW RTA site at the time of writing this reply.

DW
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:18

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:18
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Yes it is, in Victoria.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:19

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:19
I wonder why the cut & paste didn't show, try again.


QUOTE: I am led to believe that to cross an unbroken line on any road is an offence.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:01

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:01
I attended a 4wd club meeting a couple of weeks ago in Pt Pirie (SA). The guest speaker was a SA Police officer who presented a talk about various road rules and vehicle compliance etc.

One of the topics covered related to vehicles over 6m in total length (ie: virtually any vehicle towing a trailer or even a Ford F250 with no trailer) not being allowed to travel on a B-Double route without leaving a minimum of 100 meters between other similarly long vehicles.

Once you off a designated B-Double route the distance is reduced to (I think from memory) 50 meters.

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:47

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:47
Qld regs from the general informaytion site as follows. Thought other states may be the same...

"Long vehicles (measuring 7.5 metres or longer) must keep a minimum distance of 60 metres behind another long vehicle unless:

driving on a multi-lane road
driving in a built-up area
overtaking
driving in a road train area (where the minimum distance is 200 metres)."

and white edge lines.

"What does a continuous white edge line mean?
Edge lines are used as a way to mark the edge of the road space normally used by vehicles. The area to the left of the edge line is called the shoulder of the road. This space is not an extra lane for vehicles to travel in.

Drivers must ensure they do not cross the continuous white line at the edge of the road unless they are:

entering or leaving the road
turning at an intersection
overtaking to the left of a vehicle that is turning right or making a U-turn
driving a slow-moving vehicle
stopping at the side of a road.
However, drivers can cross the continuous white line for up to 100 metres when:

entering or leaving the road
turning at an intersection or
stopping at the side of a road.
If the road is multi-laned, then the driver should not cross any edge line prior to turning at an intersection.

If a vehicle in front signals a right turn, a following vehicle may cross an edge line to overtake on the left.

A driver may stop or park on the side of the road to the left of an edge line where no signs or markings prohibit the action."


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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 17:24

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 17:24
Hmmm, you've got me thinking about the figures I quoted (above) now....

I now have a feeling that the distances and provisos that you have quoted are in fact the same as our Police bloke mentioned. IE: 60 meters and not 100.....and doesn't apply on double lane roads etc etc.

Thanks Lex,

Roachie
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Follow Up By: DesF - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 18:00

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 18:00
Hi Roachie, I was at that same meeting and I thought he said that most vehicles with a van or trailer that were 7.2 mtrs long which is most according to him. are classed as a long vehicle and he said that south of Adelaide( including Adelaide) is the B Double area it is 60 mtrs apart and north of Adelaide, we are all in the roadtrain area and then it is 200 mtrs apart, but doesn't apply in Multi lane roads or when passing etc.
I thought it was a good informative evening,
Cheers Des
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Follow Up By: DesF - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 18:06

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 18:06
Hi Roachie, sorry I may not have been at the same meeting as you, we went to the one at the bowls club on last Wed evening, but that is what I understood him to say,
Cheers Des.
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Reply By: Rockape - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:33

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:33
Bloody good idea,

This should be mandatory for all vehicles that CAN'T or DO NOT WISH TO OVERTAKE THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF THEM
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 20:05

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 20:05
Steve, I reckon there is a heap of "heavy vehicle" road rules that could/should be applied to vehicles towing but in my opinion that should only be the start of things, special tow liscence would be of much benefit to the whole community too if you ask me.

Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 20:19

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 20:19
Trevor

yep....what about some of those 5th wheeler set ups?
some of them are nearly as long if not the same as a semi trailer,which i might add are articulated to.
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 20:56

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 20:56
And I don't mean to wind you up Mark,
But their don't need a log book either, fatigue management or require another license besides their car license.
Trevor, are they going to be fined for breaking any rules/law? no
Please if any body hears of someone that has been fined over the new laws, post here on EO and I'll have some faith restored in our bureaucrats.

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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 08:29

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 08:29
You guys are both correct and nothing I say here will have any positive altering effect on "the system" so I won't dribble on but any joker able to drive a mini can go and double the weight, triple the length of their rig and go and play ball with everyone else on the road???????? defies logic if you ask me.

Cheers, Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Terry W (ACT) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 08:44

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 08:44
Trevor,

I understand what you are saying, but just having a caravan licence will not fix the problem. Just look at some of the antics of people with car and truck licences.

It is a personal responsibility thing, and sadly there will always be a percentage of people whoi will never do the right thing, or listen to advice etc.

I am not suggesting that a caravan licence would not be a step in the right direction, but it will not be a complete fix. Sadly.
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 09:01

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 09:01
So true Terry.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 13:30

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 13:30
You would make an excellent bureaucrat...King Cane Toad!!!....LOL

Too, many bloody stupid rules and regulations. Use common sense and ignore the rest :-)


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - steve. B... (NSW) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 14:29

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 14:29
Thank Fella's

As a Newby to the 4x4 C/T world, I had not heard of the two points I mentioned. Your points were very enlightning, but, wouldn't it be an advantage to us if the RTA or equivalent in all States were to update information on a wider basis, NRMA Publications and the like, rather than to hear it (maybe) on a talk back media snippet.
Thank god we can post an item here and get updated faster that the relevant authority can get to us. Thank for the info.... Steve. B....

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Follow Up By: Rolly - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 14:43

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 14:43
Willem said

".........Use common sense and ignore the rest :-) ........"

Trouble is Willem is that it isn't, common, that is.

It's all to ruddy rare!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 14:56

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 14:56
Yep, we live in an age of mass stupidity.....LOL
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 17:06

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 17:06
"When towing a Caravan on the open road you must keep at least 60 metres between your vehicle and a heavy vehicle."

How do you overtake when towing, if you cannot get closer that 60m ?

Willie.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 17:34

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 17:34
Hi Willie

You meant that as a joke.. LOL.. I hope :-)

Richard
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 18:43

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 18:43
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Follow Up By: Horacehighroller - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 23:35

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 23:35
"When towing a Caravan on the open road you must keep at least 60 metres between your vehicle and a heavy vehicle."


What if the heavy vehicle is BEHIND you?

LOL

Peter
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 23:38

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 23:38
drive faster... the law states "When towing a Caravan on the open road you must keep at least 60 metres between your vehicle"

Richard
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