NP DiD Pajero Exceed I need a snorkel.

If I may be so bold. Why do you need a snorkel?

1. Do you intend to take your pride and joy into water so deep there is a likelyhood of water entering the system via the ait intake?

2. Do you intend travelling in areas of extreme dust fo extended periods?

If the answer to the first above is no and the second is yes then I suggest you visit your Mitsubsihi dealer and buy a couple of filters to allow you to change the filters at suitable times.

Why anyone would want to have the cost and noise which comes with a snorkel is quite beyond me. Certainly a snorkle will provide some additional protection in deep water situations but where the problem is dust then even the snorkel is no going to be of very much help. Change the filter more often and save the money you would pay for the snorkel.

I might live on the Sunshine Coast but a considerable part of my driving is in the west.

Friend - a western area mailman - blows the aircleaner every few days and changes it every 2/3000kms. His Toyota Ute is coming up to 400000kms and still ticks over well. Uses about a half litre of oil in 5000 kms. Gets an oil change every other Sunday.
Kevin J

I don't get any noise from my snorkel are you talking wind noise from doing 100km/h or wind noise from the air being sucked in or tuned resonances also from the air being suck in @ particular rpms?

If you ever intend to be part of a convoy you will want a snorkel that will alow you to remove the normal head easily & fit a pre-cleaner.

In dessert country you can probably move back out of the dust a fair bit & perhaps 10 cars would still be "in sight" od each other & the UHF would work from tail-end charlie back to the leader, but in the high country for example, you would find even if you stood back that on occasions the dust would just sit in the air & unless you stopped you would have to drive thru it.

PS a snorkel will not improve fuel economy or increase power so keep that in mind too!

Cheers

I owned a NP from 2003 to 2009 & after travelling in the vehicle for over 8 months I decided to purchase a snorkel. I decided on the purchase because I felt it would be a beneficial item of equipment. I noticed a significant improvement in the way the vehicle performed also the added protection that if I wished to cross a river and inadvertantly dropped into a deep hole I woild not have water in the motor. Having said that I was also conscious of the fact that snorkels are not the be all and end all in that some "fitted " snorkels have been proved to leak. I had a well known brand fitted but the TJM is best because there is no noise or vibration especially when the Pajero is on boost through the turbo (the new NT model has this situation where it is basically on boost all the time) I direct your attention to the Pajero Club of Victoria where this subject is covered adequately & there is also a full article on this site. Pajeros take air 600mm from the ground above the radiator where patrols & cruisers from the inner guard passenger & drivers side respectively. I would fit a TJM (which I have on my new vehicle) & have it fitted by a reputable dealer in off road equipment like TJM (airtech snorkel) or ARB (Safari snorkel) To test if it leaks after fitting block off the air on top of the snorkel if the motor stops then all is OK if it keeps running (even if it's running rough) take it back to be fixed.

As I said in my response. If you intend to traverse deep water by al means fit a snorkel but please think about all the other components which will be getting a ducking. I know that water in the engine is most times fatal but there are more issues that that to look at. By far the biggest problem we currently face is dust.

The Pajero already has argueably the best position eg above the radiator, for the air intake unless you are in close convoy and it seems somewhat stupid to fit a snorkel which while it has the head well above the cabin has an attachment under a guard which is the worst position. Given that most dusty situations are accompanied by rough road conditions the leakage through the under guard fittings can be and usually is substantial.

As was said everyone to his own but from experience even with a snorkel fitted I would still change the air cleaner filter element more frequently if operating in dusty areas.

If you live on the eastern seaboard what did your house look like after the recent dust storms? With the windows closed it still came in to cover everything. You may not have noticed except for the complaints from the Director of Home Affairs.

Kevin J

Hi Scoof,

I fitted a snorkel on my 1999 rodeo and it lowered the rpm @ 110km/h by approx 100rpm.

Ive heard it is due to the ram effect. I believe it has lowered the fuel economy as well but I dont have figures to substaintiate it.

Cheers Wilko

It lowered your rpm @ 100km/h? Really....

Boobook.

Your profile does not indicate your credentials in matters of this nature however you obviously have much more experience than I so I will accept your comments and leave you to provide the expert advice.


Kevin J

There is no doubt a snorkel will prevent an engine drowning if you go through deep water, and that it may reduce dust ingress.

However, like a lot of 4WD gear (snorkel, hi-lift jack, driving lights, bull bar, winch, long range tanks etc) most of it is of unproven or limited value and purchased more because we like to spend money on our vehicles, rather than because it improves tourability. Ever noticed how most of the most common extras are highly visible?

I wouldn't dream of a snorkel until I had decent tyres and extra spare, dual battery, Engel, UHF/HF radio (unless I lived in the channel country).

To answer your question scoof without arguing as to whether one should have one or not.....(roll eyes)

I have a Airtec snorkel which sits rather well on the vehicle and seems to be contoured quite well.

I had thoughts of doing it myself, however the extra $100-200 to fit it was a sound investment imo as the shop had done several dozen more fittings than myself :)

Under the bonnet, i believe that they need to cut a small curve in one piece of plastic as well as removing the existing air intake (obviously :))

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Hope that helps.

Andrew

Scoof, my neighbour just had one fitted (safari) a few months back to his 06 DID exceed, had it done by ARB here in Penrith, 4 1/2 hours to fit, brilliant job, great fitment to panels. There is more to it then looks, you need 2 different hole saws, one for inner panel one for outer panel, them alone will cost a nice price. It cost him $250 to fit. He had one fitted due to the fact of the air inlet sitting write on top of the radiator (water was his main concern). NOISE ?? no extra noise in the vehicle, said it goes better, tad better on fuel, said the turbo seems to spool up quicker, Totally happy with his purchase. I fitted my safari to my old lux myself, borrowed saws from work so didnt cost me anything, bit of silastic and was a 10g hilux so wasnt overaly concerned if I stuffed up, the prado I am having fitted by ARB $170, cheaper then the pajero due to easier fitment.Regards Steve