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Would anybody know what size socket is required to fit the drain and fill plugs on the transfer case and diffs on an 80 ser l'cruiser. Also are there alternative plugs available?
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Reply By: Member - lyndon NT - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 00:35

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 00:35
It will be around the 22mm mark, get yourself a good socket set and you will never regret it. If you plan to only ever own Jap make it all metric. These plugs are a -----, very shallow so easy to slip off. You will need a extension bar as these plugs stick fast at times. One "good" slip and you may well stuff the plug making it hard to get out.
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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:02

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:02
The best way to stop the socket from slipping off is to, grind the lip of the socket down flat, all you need to do is take off the round edge.

As I said below a 15/16 socket is a better fit for these nuts.

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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:05

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:05
yes 22mm wont fit, its 24mm or 15/16"
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 06:53

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 06:53
Ray
As Lyndon said, but go into Supercheap and get one of those cheap sets in the red container, they will crack under a bit of stress, and you don't need an expensive set like Sidchrome , Kinchrome is a good start,

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 06:54

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 06:54
I missed the important word DON'T.
but don't go into Supercheap .........

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:41

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:41
LOL, it was strange thinking you would recommend going into a store to buy a "made in china" product specifically. oh for the edit button....

i'm not even going to ask how you can post a reply at 05:54 to your original post at 07:35? Must be a gremlin in the system somewhere LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:49

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:49
sorry, must be a short term gremlin you wouldn't have seen.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:08

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:08
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:10

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:10
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Who said anything about buying "made in China" I certainly didn't .
Kinchrome is not M.i Ch.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:36

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:36
my oil changing stick is from supercheap. Its one of those bars that takes a socket abouut 35cm long and a 15/16 socket
- all it gets used for is oil changes
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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:00

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:00
Hi Ray. I have found if you use a "single" hex socket, ie similar to an impact socket it will not slip off or damage the plug so easily. You can get these type of sockets from any Kinchrome tool seller. Repco is one. Bob.
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:10

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:10
Remember when reifitting the plug it only needs to be tight enough to seal, you don't need to lean on it!!!
If having trouble with it leaking replace the sealing washer, don't overtighten!!!
If it has a copper sealing washer heat the washer on the stove till it's red and let cool slowly in the air this will retemper it and allow it to seal better.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 20:20

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 20:20
If you drop the hot copper washer into cold water it anneals quicker and better. Bob.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:02

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:02
yes copper should DEFINITELY be quenched when cherry red to anneal (soften)
Aluminium is the same.
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Reply By: Top End Explorer - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:58

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:58
The nut requiers a 15/16 socket.

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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:18

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:18
Single Hex 24mm or 15/16.

For the fill plugs on the diffs sometimes a ring spanner is better as the socket can foul on the handbrake cable causing it to come slightly off and strip the nut. Some of the nuts are alloy.

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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:34

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:34
as said 15/16
best tip is to make sure you can undo the fill plug before you drain

biggest problem you will have doing it the first time is garanteed they are done up to 50,00000000 lb/ft and there easy to round off. they dont need to be done up tightly
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Reply By: Fab72 - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:48

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:48
24mm ....do yourself a favour and get a single hex socket. Same as the impact sockets. These plugs usually bind up and round off real easy. With the above socket, it'll be a walk in the park.

Remember to remove the filler plug first. Lets the oil drain easier and nothing worse than draining the oil and finding you can't get the fill plug off to refill it.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 17:44

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 17:44
Like Steve says, 15/16 is a better fit than 24mm. I hold it on the plug with one hand and a light tap with a rubber mallet loosens it.

"are there alternative plugs available"
Yes!
Can I suggest you replace the non-magnetic drain plug on the gearbox with a magnetic plug. Just buy a rear diff drain plug for the same vehicle. Same thread. And buy some new aluminium washers (get them from Toyota for a dollar or two each). The magnetic plugs are more solid and I think less likely to round off.
If you wanted a different size head, the old 55series had a taller 17mm head on the same thread plug. It was worse! Rounded off very easily.

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Follow Up By: Member - steve. B... (NSW) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 20:18

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 20:18
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 20:30

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 20:30
hehehe
Gday Steve,
we weren't talking about sump plugs - they are 14mm - but a 9/16th will fit :-)))
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Reply By: fisho64 - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:05

Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:05
as said before, invest in a single hex socket for diffs.
You will use it for the rest of your life and curse all previous owners who havent.
If its too butchered, weld a nut on the head of the plug.

15/16 fits diffs and gearbox in a few different vehicles.

24mm and 15/16 are so close that they are essentially the same.
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Reply By: HGMonaro - Tuesday, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31

Tuesday, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31
anyone explain to me what's meant by a 'single hex socket' Does that mean a 15/16" socket or some other thing?
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Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Tuesday, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:59

Tuesday, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:59
A 6 point socket rather than a 12 point socket.
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