Window Tint

Maybe he has to show it at the police station, or, heaven forbid, he may be a man of his word!

Thanks fisho64,

The officer implied that they would do a repeat check of the car in three weeks time and if the tint had not been removed a fine was forthcoming.
me thinks that he was just trying it on and I am tempted to leave it as is. The car sits in the shed for several weeks at a time as it is not a daily driver, however the chance remains of being picked up again when it is on the road
They of course have all my details and could quite easily find the vehicle
I should mention that the southwest area is at present bulging with extra police vehicles personell due to the school leavers being in progress.
These officers were just cruising the CBD picking up other unwary drivers like me
I think they should have had more important things to do, such as getting out on the main roads where the real carnage is happening

Because they run you plates in their system. So, next time you are on the road passing a police car you will have pretty good chances to be pulled over and asked about the tint issue again.

400$ may be the way to go for a legal tint instead of paying a fine and still have to remove the tint :)

'.....These officers were just cruising the CBD picking up other unwary drivers like me
I think they should have had more important things to do, such as getting out on the main roads where the real carnage is happening'

Here we go again, obviously someone with absolutely no knowledge or understanding of the role, responsibilities and functions of the Police Force. To suggest that they have more important things to do is both ignorant and illinformed. I suggest that you familiarise yourself with the daily duties and responsibilites of uniforma Poice Officers. You just might learn a thing or two and perhaps in the future 'hink before you speak'. Have a nice day.

well said DIO, can't agree with you more.............

DIO trolling for a reaction again?
But he never comes back after leaving comments like that.

Fisho,
Although I have considered some of DIO's comments a bit pedantic, this time he got it totally right.
And there can be no comeback to them.


Disco.

Police have a weekly quota of traffic offences to reach.

Didn't you know this?

When they get the necessary quota of offences detected, their wives get a toaster.

People have prangs, get killed and injured in CBD's, residential areas, just as much as on the open road, believe me.

Sorry but I agree with Goldfind (Dunsborough), is this an issue with all the windows or just the front drivers and passengers ?? so the tints a bit dark, big deal. NSW police must have different rules here !! Have seen many a cop car here with darker tint then legal. What about the new prados, klugers, chrysler voyages, and many others with dark windows factory tinted they call it privacy glass) fitted from the drivers/passengers door back. As fisho64 said, DIO gets on here makes a comment then does a runner.... Dont complain DIO next time you need the cops for an emergency and they say they turn up in an hours time due to pulling some one over cause his/her tint was a bit dark but you have an intruder lurking in your house some where !!!!!! You will be the next one to complain when some little turd runs a coin up the side of your car or spray paints it or your fence,, where were the cops, oh booking some one for dark tint. Dont get me wrong the cops have a hard job and I wouldnt like to be in their position these days with all the doo gooders stopping them from doing what their asked to do properly or risked been sued by some scumbag welding a knife or gun in there face. These are the scum they should be getting not pulling some one over doing nothing wrong but having a bit too dark tint, PLEASE,................................Steve

So, on that basis, who decides what illegal vehicle modifications they do take notice of?

Richard H-sorry to have to say this mate but I cant make sense of that idiotic little ditty next to your Avatar.
I dont suppose you could enlighten us as to its origin/meaning?

Fish,

Read it a couple of times and think about it.

It has to do about life.

It is not a quote by Groucho.

yeah I have-several minutes that I'll desperately want back towards the end Ill wager.

All I can come up with is-

guns are neither lawful or unlawful. Their possession may or may not be though.

Not too sure about what the nooses give, I know they do take though??

Gas smells awful as its artificially produced that way to allow its detection from a leak.

Totally agree from my point of view with the last bit.

Still cant make sense of it all though-and Im guessing now thats the point-ya got me!

Robin

The cop was sacked for engaging in unprofessional, unethical and illegal practices!

Read the news items, the deputy commissioner stated that police have discretion in issuing fines for speeding

I would suggest that the Standing Orders would have fairly explicit guidelines as to how far this should be taken

The cop was not sacked for changing the speed, but for changing the speed limit for the location the driver was booked; i.e. booked at 90 kph in a 60 zone, he would change the speed limit to 70 kph to minimise the penalty.

I can’t remember, but I think at the bottom of the ticket, the cop signs a declaration that the information contained within is true and correct.

The on the spot ticket forms part of the brief of evidence should the matter go to Court. All it takes is one smart person to look at the location of the offence, send a letter to VicRoads to ascertain the speed limit for that stretch of road and, and have the entire matter thrown out as the cop had signed a false declaration.

The cop had the discretion to exercise his judgement; however he chose to make an untrue declaration on the ticket. Shows a major lack of understanding on his behalf of the legal system. Shows a major lack of understanding on his behalf of the role of Police in the legal system. It was implied in the reports (not those in the Herald-Sun) that the matter had been previously raised with the officer.

I’ve been in a car where a cop has pulled over the driver, the driver admitted he was speeding and asked for the ticket…the cop lowered the speed on the ticket to decrease the penalty. The cop used his discretion of what to record, the driver agreed with it and was grateful; the matter would not be tested in Court. The cop did not change the testable evidence. (A random image: “Your Honour, the matter should be thrown out as I was actually doing 95 kph in the 60 kph zone, not 89 kph)

Thanks Nargun

Interesting situation , both approaches deliver the same outcome of reduced fine ,with one being more obviously false.

Even if both agree and the speed was lowered below that recorded by laser etc , then you would think it is equally wrong morally even though one approach may have some offical discretion.

The Cop’s actions were the thin edge of the wedge; he was making a false declaration in regards to the evidence used to prove an offence (and what is worse this could be proved in a Court that he was perjuring himself).

The question then comes up, what other matters did the cop perjure himself about?

Is every conviction based on his evidence unsafe?

This was the reason he got sacked.

The police have discretion in lots of matters. This cop has removed some of that discretion


Obviously the use of speed cameras removes the issues totally!

Thanks for your feedback Graham,
Yes I visited the local window tint co yesterday after being picked up and he told me that it is legal to leave the rear compartment in the darker tint but the front and rear passenger windows should be a lighter tint.
He also commented that the reason for my vehicle to be a bit darker is that the original glass has a tint in it from the factory and when an extra layer of tint is added it of course becomes a darker tint
His quote was
$160.00 to do just the front two windows
$300.00 to do all four windows and $400 to do the whole car
Cheers Wayne

Yep mine is the same.

Price wasnt, got the lot done for under $250 cash with a guarantee.

Had a choice of which tint I wanted even mirror if I wanted it.

Cheers guess Queensland has some advantages.


LOL

Well Barry I actually washed the car and Van today so am whiter than white

now so hopefully wont have any trouble.

Only travel at 90 anyway so they wont be interested in me I hope.

Wife is worried we might not find the car in a park as thats its first wash since

May in Alice.

ROFLMAO.


Cheers

hi graham
you might not realize but once your 4wd has a layer of red dirt all over it
it actually protects the paint against further damage i you continually wash a 4wd while travelling in harsh conditions it exposes the paint to the next lot of harshnes that comes at it the layer of dirt provides a protective barrier and it's a free as you drive application no elbow grease required and more time for drinking lol
my mazda is 13yrs old and on the odd occasion that it recieves a wash it comes up like a new one it has only been polished twice in 13 yrs so imho not washing it saves the paint believe it or not
i've practised this for 20 years with 3 different 4wds and a couple of cars
cheers and happy travelling
barry

Yeah I know I last washed it in Kununurra in July

Wife is moaning she gets dirty when she gets in and out so perhaps I should have just washed her side LOL

Cheers

It is only the front drivers and front passenger window which is of concern.
They do not worry about back windows as long as you have two side mirrors.

Honky

Hi GB

That is one of the problems - to dark - can't see out.

'Bout time you came home!
Gallivanting round the country side like that.
Not getting your requisitions signed in triplicate.
Don't know what the world is coming to.

Just jealous - couldn't get away this year.

Tony

In N.S.W. when you get your vehicle registered, unless it is new, you need an annual mechanical check and a document submitted that this has been done. Of course this is known to us N.S.W. residents.

Last time I had my Disco checked, the inspection station owner placed a light meter on the drivers and passengers window and actually checked the tint. Luckily, the tint complied.

I understand that there has been a push by the R.T.A. to stop the really dark tints from being applied, and in fact the people who tint windows will tell you this, like they did to me, and advise against it. It has to do with vision in poor light conditions.

I can also understand why the police are funny about tinting, as they cannot see inside the vehicle at a vehicle stop, and as history has shown, some bad people carry firearms & shoot 'em to avoid apprehension.

In any case it only applies to the driver's and passenger's windows.

I believe you Phil/Sue. I think in Indonesia there is no such restriction (or no one cares if there is one!) and you can't see a thing out the back or sides including the external mirrors. At one time I was trying to reverse in a tight space and had to put the front side windows down so I could use the mirrors - it was just great since it was rainy season! :-) It's not uncommon to see 'holes' cut in the tint on the front side windows to allow the driver to see in the mirrors - that's a great look, NOT!

You have to laugh at a mental image of a "mafia" car with these little "sighting" cutouts here and there. Ha.

So how exactly do they do that seeing as the stuff comes off a bloddy long roll.

Mine hasnt got any numbers on it but the fitter wouldnt put dark on the two front windows.