Roundabout Madness!!.

They're getting rid of all the Stop signs in Perth WA and replacing them with GIVE UP signs .. LOL

HAhahahaha, ....Although i don't feel like laughing!, You have hit the nail on the head Pop!!.


Cheers Axle.

When they were introduced in Europe on large intersections, not on suburban streets like we have them here, thay are just too small to work and be safe

Steve

Exactly, try driving a large vehicle through them. Or try getting an emergency vehicle through them in a hurry.

You're right Wamuranman, item 3 is the one point that seems to cause people all sorts of problems.
I go through a 2 lane roundabout every working day and the number of "idiots" doing a right hand turn from the left hand lane while traffic is continuing straight in the right hand lane staggers me.
Regards Andrew.

And that's sorted out the dual-lane roundabouts. In the suburbs, where there are only single-lane roundabouts, the rules are even simpler (in WA, anyway):
1. If taking the first exit, you indicate left.
2. If taking the second, or straight-thru exit, no need to indicate (though I always indicate at the exit I'm taking anyway - lets people know what I'm about to do)
3. If taking the third exit, you must indicate right after entering the roundabout to show that you're continuing around.
In all cases, when entering, you give way to traffic on your right.
All the above apply to dual-lane roundabouts as well.
These rules were consolidated in law about 10 years ago in WA, and were regularly posted in the local papers to inform the public.
So the rules are simple. The problems seem to lie with the idiots who are too impatient to wait to give way.

On a slightly different tack, I get thorougly cheesed off with drivers who cannot seem to plan ahead, esp when on freeways. WA drivers seem to be getting worse and worse on this one; on a 3-lane fwy, someone travelling on the inside lane, then all of a sudden, they spot the exit they want, and dive across several lanes of traffic doing 100km/h to take that exit. If they were concentrating and thinking ahead, they would have negotiated the correct lane much earlier. But the ignorance and stupidity of them putting themselves and others at risk cutting across traffic at that speed, rather than realising their mistake and taking the next exit.
There, that's my beef for today...
Gerry

LOL that rules about indicating is fairly new to WA coming in the early 2000s

I would drive with a guy who ould have a heart attack when I Aproached a roundabout indicating right as he thought I was heading the wrong way. As a B and B west aussie hed never seen it.

as for planning ahead for exits.
sorry but without excepton the sighnage is appalling.Used to get me every time when visiting perth - and when people visit me the first thing they say is " whats the go with those bloody sighns"

Early 2000s, late 1990s, what's the diff.
Actually, the rules were consolidated to bring them into line nationally. I did a safe driving course with the NSC back in the early 80's, and the rules for indicating at roundabouts in WA were very similar then, with only one subsequent change, as far as I can see. Perhaps your panicking driving friend needed to acquaint himself more with the road rules - it is a requirement when you go for your licence :-)

Re signs, pretty universal - try negotiating the tollways in Melb, or trying to negotiate the on/off ramps around Syd Harbour Bridge if you're an outsider and don't have a Navman, but hey, these are local people doing stupid things in well-signed exits.

And joc45 is where the problem lies, any vehicle approaching RBs must give way to drivers already on RB that is on your left also, just giving way to your Right is wrong, remember Give-Way signs, give way both left and right, same as RB

eg, I am sitting at line of RB, you are 200 ft away, you must give way to me once I cross over that line, this speeding up in indian file is what causes a lot of accidents, just because your on my right doesn't mean your in the right, if theres a gap and I can cross without causing an accident then I can move onto RB and everybody must give way to me as I am on RB on your left

I agree - it's not give way to the right but give way to vehicles already on the roundabout (even if they are in front of you).

My biggest gripe about dual lane roundabouts is that there is no "safe lane" for going straight ahead: if you go in the left lane, you get squeezed into the kerb at the entry and exit by people in the right lane who can't be bothered turning the steering wheel. If you go in the inside lane, you get squeezed into the traffic island (or completely cut off) by people in the outside lane who can't be bothered turning the steering wheel.
It must be very common in Queanbeyan because during my one hour HV driving test there were three separate occasions where people pulled in front of me because I stayed in the left lane and therefore the people waiting to enter the RaB assumed I wasn't going straight! It was funny to see the look on their faces as they stared up the front of a coach heading right for their side door!

So true - a few times I've pulled out and realised only too late that I misjudged it.

The other problem is some people 100% of the time can't make the good judgement call! LOL :)

(Red rag to a Bull.)

I too would like to know what the constabulary said and who if any were charged/booked.

Craig, i was 3/4 the way round!, the guy wasn't making any attempt to stop until he relised his stupid mistake!, then we both were on the brakes, luckily i was only going slow so the impact wasn't all that great, just bent the bar mounts on the landy, the falcon mudguard was worst for wear..lol.

The constables attitude?, the same as mine," Frigin idiot!", it was not me that was charged , believe me.

Cheers Axle.

Agree with ya Hairy.
Used correctly they do as they were designed to do, and achieve a flowing traffic flow.
Used incorrectly and they become a bloody nightmare for all road users.
I remember quiet a few years ago around the Lismore/Ballina area, coppers were pulling drivers over and rewarding them for good driving, can't remember what the reward was. These days they don't have time to scratch themselves, or book drivers for traffic infringements.
Sigh, ;(

You haven't driven much in Brisbane then :-)

I grew up in SA. Queensland drivers ARE more courteous.