Gas guzzler driver!! - Im so ashamed of myself.

... and your point is?

Down grade to a Getz and then get your self one of these from Jim.

Mini Camper LOL

Steve.

15 - 17 L/100km i would be proud of that.
who gives a stuff what you drive, if you like it thats all that counts.

Tell the do-gooders to mind their own business.

Just what your looking for.

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I drive a vehicle that does little better that 30l/100km - I have no problems with that - neither does any one else - except for a bit of pity at the costs I have to pay.

I think you are just a bit sensitive - in a nice way of course :-) - and putting on my shrink hat, you are the one who is feeling a bit guilty - that consultation will cost $250.

Don't worry about it - enjoy your van and and your 6 cylinder.

Garry

Dont feel too bad,we here in SA also get bad press because we drive 4x4.As soon as a pedestrian or child is knocked down by a 4x4 all hell breaks loose.How about teaching pedestrians not to walk in front of ANY vehicle let alone a 4x4 and cross when the lights are green. I have yet to drive any Commodore, Falcon or Camry that gives the driver a clear view of the little child playing behind the vehicle.Modern medium size vehicles nowadays seem to have a wedge shape designed to minimise wind resistance.Therefore the front is lower and the back is higher.
Where are the parents of the small toddler when these accidents occur.What about their responsibility ?
It seems a lot of people out there are not aware that big improvements have been made over the years to reduce emmisions and fuel consumption making many 4x4 just as economical as their street counterparts.
Admittidly there are some that give the 4x4 a bad name but you get that in any society.How many times have you seen a large six or eight cylinder driver doing burn outs or speeding. It seems the attitude of some drivers is that any vehicle in front of you that you cannot see in front of, should be taken off the road.All i can say is 'GET OVER IT'.

When you get down, think of the roadtrain owner and what his unit uses, around .9l to the K

In these years of slowly depleting oil supplies, the luxuries of driving around in recreational vehicles of such significant size is remarkable.
The only way governments can restrict this is by taxation which is happening now.
Would there be no means of throttling consumption, we'd be hitting the ceiling of supply hard again, triggering another world wide downturn, a double dip recession every investor is fearful of.
The task of OECD governments at the moment is to let the economy gather pace in a very controlled manner. Once we arrive at yet anoter supply ceiling, the cycle will repeat itself in ever shorter intervals.
There is little we can do about this as individuals.
No need to be ashamed of anything, except for not accepting tax measures perhaps.

Regards, Peter.

Hi Paul,

Do what I do and ignore the treehuggers, They go away and besides their prob imbo's anyway.

15-17 is not gas guzzling, you've gotta care less what other people think and enjoy the freedom that comes with owning a van.

Cheers Wilko

Thanks all for your comments.......some groups (tree huggers is s term I should not have used) consider anything over 10L/100km to be gas guzzling, some even less.
Now, two points I would like to expand on,firstly, what I didn't mention was that, at some degree of expense, I converted my Rodeo to run on LPG two years ago....the vehicle therefore emits less pollutants and consumes less ULP than a Getz...how does that count now with the trend to 'tax out' guzzlers as correctly mentioned in a previous posting??.....zilch, nothing, nothing at all....still considered to be a gas guzzler, rego wise in Queensland.

Secondly, no one put forward a definitive answer to my question...'What is a a 4x4?'...ok, we know that by definition it relates to the ability of a vehicle to apply drive at all four wheels........but why do some groups want them banned? The Greenies?, because of their size and fuel consumption?..or Mr. Scrubby and his Pedestrian Council of Australia...because the view out of a 4x4 is significantly worse than that of 'ordinary cars'? and they keep running over children?............Ok perhaps, so, but if so what would the criteria be?....weight?...physical size? ....thinking about that for a minute consider a Suzuki 4x4..smaller, lighter and with better all around vision by far (esp..... rearwards) then a Holden Commodore or a Ford Falcon, both sedan and wagon variants....or, what about a Ford Territory?...this vehicle is available in both 4x4 and 4x2 and both vehicles are almost dimensionally the same...or, a Audi Quatro, a sedan with four wheel drive....I could go on as I am sure many of you could.
Paul
Brisbane.

I enjoy my oil guzzler but would like it to run using much less, then pigs do fly don't they.
The best way to reduce the use of fuel is to as they are doing make more efficient engines.
My problem is to upgrade then set up a new vehicle for touring and caravaning would cost around $60 grand.
Now I get 18ltr/100k towing and lets say the new 4x4 gets 12ltr/100k and that would be good towing 1.8t.
So the difference @ $1.50 ltr would be 666,000klms in the new vehicle to break even. Well I think the Nissan will last another 9 years as it has taken me 9 years to do 200,000 k's. So the old 4.2 is still in the family.

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Hey Paul

Next time one of these battery powered car drivers has a go at you ask him (or her) why are they powering their car from a dirty coal generated source.

Then remind them of the benefits of using biodeisel. There was one on the ABC just a minute ago talking about the diesel being generated from coconuts that are usually tossed out.

Also the cost of diesel isn't that much more when you take into account that most diesel motors last thousands of miles more than petrol.

And then they have to dispose of the old contaminated batteries. Hmmmm

Why on earth you would worry about what 'other' people are saying about your motoring behaviour puzzles me.

Just as much as why some people group everyone who is environmentally aware as a 'greenie', green leftie, tree hugger etc.

All borne of ignorance and herd behaviour, I suspect.

I drive a "gas guzzler" too - a well kept 1985 Landcruiser on petrol/LPG which, thanks to the previous owners, has not needed replacing with a newer car that used heaps of energy and resources to build.

I also use public transport wherever and whenever it is practicable, so the 2 tonne mound of metal and plastic gets rather less use, and consequently uses less fuel, than many of the fuel misers that do tens of thousands of kilometers, often quite unnecessarily.

Pity the critics: They probably have little or no idea of what they are talking about. They probably don't know that they don't know, either.